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You said it. He's a CLASSICAL LIBERAL like myself (socially speaking), not a neo-liberal like many on CD. Jesus would NEVER advocate the forced redistribution of funds from rich people for social welfare programs.Jesus is NOT a fiscal liberal and there is no scripture which can verify this claim.
In the book of Job, at no time was there mention of Job getting money for nothing just because he'd fallen on hard times, harder times than many in America could never imagine.
You may want to reread Matthew 19:21-23 before you modify your post.
That's Supply-Side Jesus you're thinking of....I'll bet you're one of those Pharisee types who rationalizes, hey, the poor are always going to be with us, therefore we dont have to help them? You go to one of those churches that talks about money and tells you Jesus wants you to drive a Mercedes?
Jesus believed in charity. At no time did Jesus believe in forced extraction to fund poor people. "having to help them" is a red herring as charity/non-profit is explicitly meant for this purpose, and it's quite clear Jesus would prefer this method of giving as opposed to redistribution.
Saying I go or not go to one of these churches is irrelevant to this conversation. If I choose to tithe, it's my business and does not apply to the debate.
The political spectrum, even as much as we'd like it to be, isn't simply one-dimensional. Someone can hold a majority of views that are considered right-wing and still have a significant number of left-wing views. There are some issues that may not even have a clear-cut liberal or conservative side. That being said, people will and do try to put everyone on their one-dimensional scale and even if he is anti-Christian I think he would fall decidedly on the right hand side of most people. FWIW, just using the world socialist doesn't make someone liberal, as I don't think anyone would argue the National Socialists in 1930s Germany were liberal.
There is also a continual confusion between the quality of an idea and the qualities of those who support that idea. It's particularly unfortunate that ideas aren't even judged by their typical supporter but by their most reprehensible. Intelligent debate is based on ideas. If you don't like some conservative idea, make an argument why that idea is bad or your alternative is better, but don't trot out this guy and say "look at what conservatism brings". While it may seem more convincing to say that conservatism is bad because of people like James Van Brunn, it really just seems to say, "I have no intelligent way of defending my own views." It's actually a lot like a few years ago when someone would attack liberal views as "supporting terrorists".
Jesus believed in charity. At no time did Jesus believe in forced extraction to fund poor people. "having to help them" is a red herring as charity/non-profit is explicitly meant for this purpose, and it's quite clear Jesus would prefer this method of giving as opposed to redistribution.
Saying I go or not go to one of these churches is irrelevant to this conversation. If I choose to tithe, it's my business and does not apply to the debate.
Haha, you *do* go to one and it's absolutely obvious. You go to the kind of church that makes *you* feel good.
Taxes: Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. He didnt say pay taxes gladly for wars and complain about taxes that help your fellow man. He didnt differentiate concerning taxes, and in His day there werent taxes that helped the poor. Hence beggars and sick people in the street.
You're justifying your own selfishness and cruelty, and it sounds as if your church encourages those distinctly unChristian qualities. If your church does NOT tell you to "sell all you have and give to the poor," then good luck later to all of you, is all I can say.
Haha, you *do* go to one and it's absolutely obvious. You go to the kind of church that makes *you* feel good.
Taxes: Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. He didnt say pay taxes gladly for wars and complain about taxes that help your fellow man. He didnt differentiate concerning taxes, and in His day there werent taxes that helped the poor. Hence beggars and sick people in the street.
You're justifying your own selfishness and cruelty, and it sounds as if your church encourages those distinctly unChristian qualities. If your church does NOT tell you to "sell all you have and give to the poor," then good luck later to all of you, is all I can say.
Actually, I give A LOT to charity because I believe voluntary charity is far more efficient and promotes the concept of freedom.
The only admissions requirement to get into Heaven is believing that Jesus died for our sins. You can be the richest, most disguisting criminal and it matters not. Of course, being such a person would likely preclude you from qualifying you based on this deceptively simple entrance requirement.
I never claimed my opinion was fact. As a scientist, I can only operate on proving or disproving hypothesis, rather than operate on conjecture. When I see empirical evidence this person argued on the merits of sound money, using M0/M1/M2/M3 money supply, the Fed recently buying back Treasuries, or otherwise as a basis, I will begin entertaining the idea he was a paleoconservative.
It seems from your last statement, you were claiming his membership among the paleoconservative was a fact. Pot, meet kettle.
Don't know what you're babbling about, if you bothered to read anything other than your own opinion you would know he was a paleoconservative.
Unlike most conservatives today, paleoconservatives are against the Iraq War. They are highly critical of the Bush administration and the mainstream conservative movement. Paleoconservatism vocally distinguishes itself in its opposition to neoconservatism.
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