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Thirty years later, democratic and progressive forces...
Your vision of democracy and historical recollection is whack bro. Persia doesn't hold free elections. The mullahs choose who the candidates are. You can't run unless you are in line with the powers that be. Obey and fall into line! You think that is progressive.
You'd probably advocate that the USSR was a great democracy considering they had elections too. Cuba, another great progressive thriving democracy by your definition.
Article 113 of the Iranian constitution stipulates that executive power is subservient to "the office of Leadership. So as a matter-of-fact, the Iranian election will have very little impact on Iranian leadership, gays will still be executed, women will still be treated as property, there will be no change in daily operations, and Iran will still support their terrorist proxies. It really doesnt matter who their next president it as it will be business as usual with the Supreme Leader, Grand Ayatollah Khamenei still running the show.
The only outcome of this election will be how loud of a voice will they have on the world stage.
Iranian elections don't matter any more than Iraqi elections mattered when Saddam was in power. A religious genocidal dictatorship is still a religious genocidal dictatorship no matter who is put into power. Only the incredibly naive and inexperienced Affirmative Action President and his devote kool-aid drinkers think the Iranian election will make any difference.
So I guess you also didn't think it mattered when Deng Xiaoping was going up against the gang of four in China. You also probably though that it was no big deal when Zhou Enlai and the moderates in China won over Mao and organized a meeting between him and Nixon. I bet you said "China is a communist dictatorship and it doesn't matter who holds sway there. A communist dictatorship is a dictatorship and no matter who holds sway it will not make any difference." I guerentee if moderates win in Iran and stay in power in Iran they will have some influnce. The guardian council is not as monolitic a group as many neo-cons think it is. There are definite divisions and between how they see things both economically and foreign policy wise. Not having a sabre rattler as the face for the world will help change things.
This OP either has ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING of the Iranian theocracy, or is just trying to inflame (I think it's the latter).
The orders come down from the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameni. The President, whether it's the current nut or the other radical (who is not a reformist - he has been a radical for his entire adult life), has no decision-making power on the nuke program or foreign policy. There will be NO change in those area unless the Ayatollah wills it. And the Guardian Council has been absolutely consistent in those policies for 27 years.
Let's not forget that "who is really in power" is only in power because we orchestrated the overthrow of a democratically elected government and installed the Shah, who was friendly to U.S. oil interests.
More revisionist history by the truly ignorant. Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, a.k.a. "The Shah of Iran", became the lawful ruler of Iran on September 16, 1941, replacing his deposed father. The US had absolutely nothing to do with putting him into power. We had no interests in the region at that time.
Naturally, the liberal freaks can't swallow any history that does not blame the US for everything. So they have to make up fantasies that never happened, reality be damned.
How convenient for you to talk about how little power the president of Iran is when the people are looking for a new direction. At the same time you will say the opposite if there is no change in power. Stop with the semantics...
Ok Duke..tell us just how much power the President of Iran has over the Ayatollah.
Are the righties really trying to lecture us about how Iran is? Do they KNOW that had we not deposed their DEMOCRATICALLY elected leader in the 50s and put in the puppet Shah, that Iran may have been a very different place today?
"OH THEY ARE EVIL!" Yeah, we turned them against us with our interference. We've been doing this since WWII - waltzing around the globe, telling people how to run their countries. And then we WONDER why they turn fundie on us? LOLOL. Wake up.
Your vision of democracy and historical recollection is whack bro. Persia doesn't hold free elections. The mullahs choose who the candidates are. You can't run unless you are in line with the powers that be. Obey and fall into line! You think that is progressive.
You'd probably advocate that the USSR was a great democracy considering they had elections too. Cuba, another great progressive thriving democracy by your definition.
Article 113 of the Iranian constitution stipulates that executive power is subservient to "the office of Leadership. So as a matter-of-fact, the Iranian election will have very little impact on Iranian leadership, gays will still be executed, women will still be treated as property, there will be no change in daily operations, and Iran will still support their terrorist proxies. It really doesnt matter who their next president it as it will be business as usual with the Supreme Leader, Grand Ayatollah Khamenei still running the show.
The only outcome of this election will be how loud of a voice will they have on the world stage.
You missing the whole picture. This could be the beginning of change in Iran period. It goes much deeper than just electing a new president that favors a more moderate relationship with the West.
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