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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by sailordave
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to link state driver's license and state ID cards into a national database? My grandmother never drove a car but she did have a state ID card. Such a database could be used for when someone is applying for a driver's license. They could enter that person's name and age and even SSN to see if it appears in another state as "license revoked" and not give that person a license to drive in their state. Or if the person has a good driving record in the other state then he/she must first turn in their old license before being handed the new one, the old one shredded and it's status entered in the other state's database. Many drivers, especially truck drivers, manage to get multiple licenses from different states just in case they get busted.
That is not true anymore. Driver's licenses in one state are now matched with another state. A cop who stops you in Cincinatti can see that your license in Georgia is good and when he gives you the ticket and you pay it, the points will be deducted from your Georgia license (personal experience).
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Hey what an idea! Then we could set up checkpoints on all of the roads so they can check your "papers" to be sure they're all in order since we wouldn't want anyone to run around without their national ID's right?...
I'd suggest the uniforms for the checkpoint officers be black, maybe with knee length black leather boots?
That is overblow. Your ID should only be checked when you board a plane or buy liquor.
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Originally Posted by sailordave
You made broad assumptions on the subject without facts to back up your statements. If "profiling and discrimination" would be the problem then where is the evidence that our current state DL or ID is also used for profiling and discrimination? Wouldn't such things be based upon a person's "physical appearance" regardless of their ID card?
Uhhh,yeah...that never happens...this is the result of a 2 second search.Google is your is your buddy,you should visit him.
How prevalent is racial profiling in Illinois?
A study prompted by a 1994 lawsuit and submitted in 1999 by the ACLU brought to light the pervasiveness of racial profiling on Illinois roads. Experts concluded that among state troopers, especially those assigned to a drug interdiction program called “Operation Valkyrie,” racial profiling is a common practice.
Although Hispanics comprise less than 8% of the Illinois population, and take fewer than 3% of the personal vehicle trips in Illinois, they comprise 27% of the searches conducted by Valkyrie officers. In the area surrounding East St. Louis, Hispanics comprise less than 1% of the local driving-age population but comprise 41% of the searches.
Even though African Americans comprise less than 15% of the Illinois population and take approximately 10% of the personal vehicle trips in Illinois, they comprise 23% of the searches conducted by Valkyrie officers.
While troopers ask a higher percentage of Hispanic drivers than white drivers for consent to search their vehicles, they find contraband in a lower percentage of the vehicles of Hispanic drivers. This demonstrates that searches are based on race, not results.
ACLU of Illinois - Legal - High School Civil Liberties Project - Racial Profiling (http://www.aclu-il.org/legal/highschool/students/racialprofiling.shtml - broken link)
Hey what an idea! Then we could set up checkpoints on all of the roads so they can check your "papers" to be sure they're all in order since we wouldn't want anyone to run around without their national ID's right?...
I'd suggest the uniforms for the checkpoint officers be black, maybe with knee length black leather boots?
Hey I hate "big Brother/Government too; however in this instance It solves numerous problems...and I am not for any type of profiling, it is basically "justifying prejudice".
Uhhh,yeah...that never happens...this is the result of a 2 second search.Google is your is your buddy,you should visit him.
How prevalent is racial profiling in Illinois?
A study prompted by a 1994 lawsuit and submitted in 1999 by the ACLU brought to light the pervasiveness of racial profiling on Illinois roads. Experts concluded that among state troopers, especially those assigned to a drug interdiction program called “Operation Valkyrie,” racial profiling is a common practice.
Although Hispanics comprise less than 8% of the Illinois population, and take fewer than 3% of the personal vehicle trips in Illinois, they comprise 27% of the searches conducted by Valkyrie officers. In the area surrounding East St. Louis, Hispanics comprise less than 1% of the local driving-age population but comprise 41% of the searches.
Even though African Americans comprise less than 15% of the Illinois population and take approximately 10% of the personal vehicle trips in Illinois, they comprise 23% of the searches conducted by Valkyrie officers.
While troopers ask a higher percentage of Hispanic drivers than white drivers for consent to search their vehicles, they find contraband in a lower percentage of the vehicles of Hispanic drivers. This demonstrates that searches are based on race, not results.
ACLU of Illinois - Legal - High School Civil Liberties Project - Racial Profiling (http://www.aclu-il.org/legal/highschool/students/racialprofiling.shtml - broken link)
Just because they were more likely pulled over and searched doesn't mean it was because of their race. More likely it was because of other things police officers are trained to look out for like suspicious behavior or suspicious smells or physical signs of drug use.
I think we should, after the initial cost think of how the system would help stop crime,foreign terrorists, and illegal immigration...also would slow down domestic terrorism. Surely would speed up our nation's transportation system...especially at airports.
We have state issued driver license and state issued ID cards today.
Why do you think a national ID card would solve all those problems over what we have today ?
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