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Old 06-13-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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Long term this should be intersting to watch.

I suspect that this revolt by some of the people of iran should be put down within a couple of days or so and Ahmadinejad will take his place of power for the this election cycle. But the interesting thing will be to watch in the next election cycle. I think a lot of folks will carry a lot of bitterness from this election and will harbor it and perhaps quietly build an opposition to the current establishment. While I don't see a major relolution anytime near or even in the future. I think Iranian society maybe moved to change more toward some western ideals even if it only very slightly. Granted I also don't believe the U.S. and Iran will be "friends" for a long time. But I think I do see a little glimmer of hope that maybe the youth of Iran are at least looking to stabilize relationships with the west (U.S.)

We shall see.
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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From a purely selfish point of view, I hope the current Iranian regime holds together. If Iran destabilizes, we're screwed - we'll have unstable reges from Pakistan to Iran. We'll never get out of Iraq.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:04 PM
 
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NO, the election was falsified, mathematically the statistics don't add up.
Faulty Election Data – tehranbureau (http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/faulty-election-data/ - broken link)
Another coup for the Hardliners – tehranbureau (http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/12/reading-the-supreme-leader/ - broken link)
Turn of Events – tehranbureau (http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/2360/ - broken link)

other reports, (falsified information and concealment of information)
http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/alerts-from-tehran/ (broken link)
http://www.rsf.org/Massive-censorship-accompanies.html

protest and video coverage
The Real News Network - Iran election protesters beaten
(protest footage)
The Real News Network - Raw Video: Protest in Tehran of Iran Election Results -Vanak Square 4pm 13 June 2009
The Real News Network - Raw Video: Iranians protesting in vast numbers against election results 2009
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well Iran wouldn't be the first country where the election was pre-determined.
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I loved the way the MSM treated Iran's "election" as if it were the New Hampshire primary or something. A real nail-biter -- with bad old monkey man vs. some token opponent who supposedly represented the "reformist" wave that is, ahem, sweeping Iran.

Well guess what. Now that it turned out to be another rig-job by the mullahs, it's relegated to page 2 below the fold, and the chattering class is busily bashing Sarah Palin for being insulted by a gap-toothed geriatric...

Plus ca change, plus la meme chose, indeed.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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Long term this should be intersting to watch.

I suspect that this revolt by some of the people of iran should be put down within a couple of days or so and Ahmadinejad will take his place of power for the this election cycle. But the interesting thing will be to watch in the next election cycle. I think a lot of folks will carry a lot of bitterness from this election and will harbor it and perhaps quietly build an opposition to the current establishment. While I don't see a major relolution anytime near or even in the future. I think Iranian society maybe moved to change more toward some western ideals even if it only very slightly. Granted I also don't believe the U.S. and Iran will be "friends" for a long time. But I think I do see a little glimmer of hope that maybe the youth of Iran are at least looking to stabilize relationships with the west (U.S.)
We shall see.
Glimmer of hope-
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:19 AM
 
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Interesting observations here
Perhaps from the start Mousavi was destined to fail as he hoped to combine the articulate energies of the liberal upper class with the business interests of the bazaar merchants. The Facebook campaigns and text-messaging were perfectly irrelevant for the rural and working classes who struggle to make a day's ends meet, much less have the time to review the week's blogs in an internet cafe. Although Mousavi tried to appeal to such classes by addressing the problems of inflation and poverty, they voted otherwise.
Wishful thinking from Tehran | Abbas Barzegar | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:28 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I was really bummed by the result. It's always a shame when nutcase nationalists win because of uneducated people who don't know any better. *sigh* another four years....
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:17 AM
 
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Not really, conservative Ahmadinejad won the elections
>>>> The moslem extremist won the election. Like I said, Acorn was active in Iran as well.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Mousavi wasn't going to exactly be a friend of the west ... he still supports Iran's nuclear program and has referred to Israel as a tumor ...

hmmm ... the rural uneducated love rock me ahmadinijhad and the so called educated elite love Mousavi ... bizarro!

Iran can keep the former hostage taker.
It's really not that bizarre really. The middle class and rural poor are the easiest targets to be brainwashed by Ahmadinejad's evil policies. They have no jobs, no hope, and when you're in that situation, you cling on to the nearest scapegoat you can find and can easily be recruited into any ideology. The Iranian economy is in shambles and what does he do? Focus on anti-Western rhetoric rather than help them out. Unfortunately, the wealthy and those in college are the only ones smart enough to see that.

He's driving Iran into the ground. Iranians are all good people and frankly it's tragic that they have to deal with him for god knows how long.
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