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Old 06-14-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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It's called "regulation".

If the government want's to help out in this case, then they can help by regulating the industry at large.

Many states have public service commissions that energy companies have to go through in order to raise their rates. If an energy company cannot justify a rate increase, then the state says no to the rate increase.

Regulation may be looked upon as government interference by some, but without it, we can all see the alternative.

Regulation, to various degrees absolutely will not hurt competition, as some have erroniously claimed. It instead adds a level of accountabilty to the private sector that has been grossly lacking in this country for the past 20 or so years.
I agree with you! Letting Health Insurance companies do as they please has proven to do nothing but help drive the cost higher and higher every year.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by bigskydude View Post
It's called "regulation".

If the government want's to help out in this case, then they can help by regulating the industry at large.

Many states have public service commissions that energy companies have to go through in order to raise their rates. If an energy company cannot justify a rate increase, then the state says no to the rate increase.

Regulation may be looked upon as government interference by some, but without it, we can all see the alternative.

Regulation, to various degrees absolutely will not hurt competition, as some have erroniously claimed. It instead adds a level of accountabilty to the private sector that has been grossly lacking in this country for the past 20 or so years.
Would it be possible for states to put together a commission on health care companies? Just wondering....

The more I keep seeing this health care reform/bailout for the health insurance companies play out in Congress, the more I think real reform will be at the state level.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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There are too many people in America who couldn't care less how the current Health System in America is lop sided and destroying small/middle size businesses and huge companies like GM as long as they get their medical needs catered for. As long as they have health cover the rest can go die in the streets or have their lives destroyed. It isn't a problem until the company that pays for their health care goes under and they become the ones without health cover. Don't give me this "work for it" b/s. many work hard, very hard and still cannot afford the premiums to insure their families but hey why should the ones with health care worry about them, after all America is now the Home of the brave and land of the "fat cats"
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Here is one proposal that seems to be somewhat acceptable to Republicans:

Wonk Room Conrad Proposes Co-ops To Replace Public Plan

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/us...ef=global-home

Apparently, these co-ops would get "seed money" from the feds and charge premiums. Sort of like when a lot of businesses "self-insured".
Its not acceptable to Pelosi though!

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Nancy Pelosi - Blogs from CNN.com
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Well, she's only one person.
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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There are too many people in America who couldn't care less how the current Health System in America is lop sided and destroying small/middle size businesses and huge companies like GM as long as they get their medical needs catered for. As long as they have health cover the rest can go die in the streets or have their lives destroyed. It isn't a problem until the company that pays for their health care goes under and they become the ones without health cover. Don't give me this "work for it" b/s. many work hard, very hard and still cannot afford the premiums to insure their families but hey why should the ones with health care worry about them, after all America is now the Home of the brave and land of the "fat cats"
i want socialized healthcare to work, but I as a single person taxpayer do not want to pay for the family next door who has 4 kids or the illegal immigrant that comes over here and gets freebies. I want to pay for myself only and NOT for everybody else.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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i want socialized healthcare to work, but I as a single person taxpayer do not want to pay for the family next door who has 4 kids or the illegal immigrant that comes over here and gets freebies. I want to pay for myself only and NOT for everybody else.
Hey you think you are just paying for you with private health premiums?
Everytime they make huge payments for other people, your premium goes up.
Everytime someone gets surgery and then stops their insurance your premiums go up.

Everytime some one uses a A&E and does not pay, it comes out of YOUR taxes.
So if you think that keeping a Private Insurance means you only pay for yourself, it just doesn't happen.
If you pay for a UHC...Illegals do not get healthcare except A&E for urgent care. Every single American gets health cover and thay includes every member of your family whether they work or not.
At the Moment you earn less from a company that gives you health cover because it costs them a lot to insure you. A UHC means a small tax to cover your health needs with NO co pay and more salary as you aren't having health as a factor of your pay.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I like the co-op idea. The AMA supports it. For better or worse, we will not get health care reform w/o the co-operation of the doctors.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:39 PM
 
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I like the co-op idea. The AMA supports it. For better or worse, we will not get health care reform w/o the co-operation of the doctors.
Only something like 14% of the doctors in the US belong to the AMA. It's expensive, and doesn't serve their needs, from what doctors I know have been telling me.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Only something like 14% of the doctors in the US belong to the AMA. It's expensive, and doesn't serve their needs, from what doctors I know have been telling me.
Perhaps, but most still support the AMA, politically.
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