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Old 06-14-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Maybe the teacher's UNION .... yea, union ... should be involved.
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Old 06-14-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And when that person doesn't know the difference between not having a contract renewed and being fired?
Carelessness on my part. I wrote the thread title before reading the article and didn't change it. I made a mistake. I admit it.

I'm well aware of the difference and I'm sure almost every other poster is as well.

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Old 06-14-2009, 09:06 AM
 
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Didn't see anything in the article about him fighting to keep his job ... he went screaming to the media instead ... there's word's for those kinds of people ... Sarah Palin is one.
I didn't see Letterman mention the 18 year old either, but you sure argued that "that is who he meant."

Some things are so easy to infer that clarifiication is not needed.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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No teacher should be so biased in their teaching. I've heard numerous times the conservatives on here screeching about liberal teaching methods. Seems to be a double standard going on here, it's ok for a teacher to be conservative but not liberal?
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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I have an issue with this. When I was studying government I never knew which side of the fence my teacher landed on. She dealt with facts and asked us what we thought, agreed with, disagreed with but I don't ever remember her saying she favored on over the other. I don't think his personal political beliefs should have been part of the learning process.
Exactly correct. He was not teaching, he was indoctrinating, Thats a real danger in Kansas and conservative locations all across America.

Watch "Jesus Camp" on DVD sometime for great examples of this
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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He was not teaching, he was indoctrinating, Thats a real danger in Kansas and conservative locations all across America.
So it's a-ok to indoctrinate kids into liberalism?

Personally, I don't think either is acceptable. If the teacher was really "indoctrinating" students into conservatism, I find his contract not being renewed very appropriate. Unlike you, I don't promote double standards.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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So it's a-ok to indoctrinate kids into liberalism?
It is in my book. Education means two opposing ideas in many arguments. There are private schools out there who indoctrinate into conservatism
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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A teacher's classroom can be a bully pulpit, it they choose to use it that way. It appears that this teacher might have gone over the line and done exactly that.

If he is a member of his union, they will defend him. If he is not, he's on his own.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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It is in my book. There are private schools out there who indoctrinate into conservatism
Well if it's a private school it's not the same. The parents chose to put their children in that school so then they are agreeing to the things the children are taught (in general) - that's not the case with the public school system.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, Ks
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There are at least two sides to every story, and I'm only seeing one in this article. How do we know why this guy's contract wasn't renewed? We don't know, all we have is his word and that of some of his students who've taken up his 'cause.'
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