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Didn't see anything in the article about him fighting to keep his job ... he went screaming to the media instead ... there's word's for those kinds of people ... Sarah Palin is one.
Going to the media is fighting for your job to bring attention to what happened to you to try and pressure the district to reconsider
When I think "fired" I think of it as you've done something wrong, something that will probably make it harder for you to get a teaching job somewhere else. When I think "non-renewed" I think lay-off, elimination of position, not really a factor of your performance. I understand your point but I still think there's a difference between the two.
You are parsing words in a very lawyerly manner but fired is fired. At 53 I applied to many schools and got the same reply from all of them. We would like to hire you but with all your experience we can't afford you and have to use beginners. I refused to go back into small school teaching as I had always been in and larger ones just weren't about to pay the salary their contracts with their unions called for. Of course, one can't get them to pay less because of the union problems with that.
Yep fired was fired, in my case. Fired forever, as it turned out.
Exactly correct. He was not teaching, he was indoctrinating, Thats a real danger in Kansas and conservative locations all across America.
Watch "Jesus Camp" on DVD sometime for great examples of this
He was indoctrinating? Where would you get any suggestion of that? According to a student who was in his class, and who describes herself as a Liberal, "He was very good about looking at both candidates. Sometimes his conservative side would show, but my opinion along with anyone else's was always valued."
I failed to hear what you heard and I sure didn't hear him admit to being a fascist as is denoted under the video. I think some hear what they want to hear and the rest of us hear something else. I have seen this one used for the same purpose before, though.
I never said he as a fascist. That word along with communist, socialist has been thrown around too much. I would say that he's a scheister.
He was indoctrinating? Where would you get any suggestion of that? According to a student who was in his class, and who describes herself as a Liberal, "He was very good about looking at both candidates. Sometimes his conservative side would show, but my opinion along with anyone else's was always valued."
This whole story sounds like it was about a very good teacher. To get a liberal kid to admit that he was allowing discussion of both sides in that campaign, as bloody as it got, proves to me that he did a great job of doing what a teacher should do. I always prided myself on being that way but am not sure I could have handled that one.
Being an American History & Government teacher, and refusing to air on TV for his class the innauguration of the first black-American President in our history - well - that seems to be a pretty condemning piece of evidence of what a closed-minded, biased and politically manipulative teacher this guy probably is...
I agree he should be at least re-assigned to another school - if not fired outright...
We don't need bigots like that teaching our children.
If he were my kid's teacher - I'd be demanding he be fired.
Wow. There's all sorts of assumptions and misconceptions in that post. Read the article. And then please show us the bigotry. He said that, while he printed & discussed the speech, he decided to not air the actual innauguration, just as he had chosen to not air any of the previous innaugurations that occured during his 19 years as a teacher. So, unless you have some evidence to the contrary, it appears he was simply being consistent, and giving to this President the exact same treatment he gave to white Presidents, whether they were conservative or liberal.
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I failed to hear what you heard and I sure didn't hear him admit to being a fascist as is denoted under the video. I think some hear what they want to hear and the rest of us hear something else. I have seen this one used for the same purpose before, though.
That was tied to the video link by the original video poster, not by the person who link it here.
It's kind of like news headlines, where they leave out or make up as the see fit, to sucker people into viewing. Like the OP.
In teacher jargon, not having your contract renewed is the same as being fired!
My old girlfriend is going through the same thing in her school. The principal has some issues with her and was trying to get her to retire, if not, she was not going to have her contract renewed. That's the same as being fired. They just let you work out the sxchool year because its hard to get a replacement. She fought and won, so far.
Not true at all.
I've been reduced-in-force twice early in my teaching career. It was just after the baby boomers had left the schools, enrollments were dropping, I was the youngest hire in my department. Although no layoff is welcome, I certainly understood that letting me go was the fairest decision that could have been done at that point and had nothing to do with my teaching ability. I've also seen this happen several times in my own district when there's been a financial crisis or enrollment drop.
If your old girlfriend's contract wasn't renewed because of issues with the principal...well, that's one reason why those evil teachers unions have a purpose. If administration would treat teachers in a fair and respectful manner, unions wouldn't be needed.
This whole story sounds like it was about a very good teacher. To get a liberal kid to admit that he was allowing discussion of both sides in that campaign, as bloody as it got, proves to me that he did a great job of doing what a teacher should do. I always prided myself on being that way but am not sure I could have handled that one.
When schools (or companies) make cuts, being good sometimes is worth squat. Sometimes they have to take one from group A and one from group B etc. until they meet their budget. Sometimes one higher paid employee being let go, saves 3 lower paid employees. And at that point in time, it's about the budget, not the classroom.
But there is always more to the story we are not hearing.( and mostly likely never will)
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