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06-15-2009, 03:27 PM
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Beltway Brat
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
Meanwhile, for the sheeple (otherwise known as liberals), global warming is just another feel-good, warm and fuzzy coat-tail to jump on and ride in their attempt to blame the United States for the world's ills.
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..while they run around insisting that mercury filled light bulbs should be manditory to help save the planet. Of course totally dismissing the fact that 75% of them will end up in land fills, thus the water supply, rather that triple baggied and disposed of at designated sites.
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06-15-2009, 08:59 PM
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this has been the coldest june i can remember still got the top on the jeep and my tomatos frooze.at least in CO
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06-15-2009, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by momonkey
In fact, from 1895 through 1979 the annual US average temperature dropped 0.01 Deg F per decade. That's right, it got colder at a time when atmospheric CO2 levels were increasing. But wait, It gets more incredible. From 1953 through 1979 average US temperature dropped 0.40 Deg F per decade leading climatologist of the 1970s to warn of an impending Ice Age. Now consider the Ice Agers looking at temperature data from 1953 to 1979. If that trend continued, we would have lost a staggering 1.20 Deg F since 1979 and be facing near certain extinction from the run away global cooling. If we focus in on the change from 1979 through 2006 we find that the average US temperature increased by a rate of 0.58 Deg F per decade. But the story here isn't that the hottest decade was the late 1990s and early 0s or is it that 1998 was the hottest year in recorded history. The real story is that 1979 was the coldest year in recorded history and 1998 was the warmest. Since 1998 the average annual US temperature has dropped by a rate of 0.77 Deg F per decade. So I have to ask the obvious question, Is Al (stands-to-make-a-lot-of-money) Gore correct or are the Ice Agers correct? I say neither since the US temperature in 1908 averaged 52.82 Deg F and the one for 2008 was 53.02 Deg F. It is exactly 0.20 Deg F hotter today than it was 100 years ago. Global warming is a hoax.
UNITED STATES Climate Summary
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What is wrong with you people?
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06-15-2009, 09:34 PM
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Scolded Member
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"A drill sergeant is the only therapist a man needs"
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Originally Posted by saganista
Pretending that global warming is a hoax is a hoax. See Creation Science for details...
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I betcha did tons of research before you decided g.w. was genuine, huh?
Yep, studied both sides long and hard. And after a period of deep thought and fasting came to your conclusion. And still, after all that careful study,
your still on the lookout for any new information that would illuminate this
issue. Your just that kind of guy.
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06-15-2009, 11:10 PM
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Sucks to be one of the flock of AGW church goers these days
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Inclusion of fundamental ecological interactions between the terrestrial carbon and nitrogen cycles in the land component of an atmosphere-ocean general circulation model (AOGCM) leads to increased carbon storage on land under radiatively-forced anthropogenic climate change, and an overall negative climate-carbon cycle feedback. The primary mechanism responsible for increased land carbon storage is shown to be fertilization of plant growth by increased mineralization of nitrogen directly associated with increased decomposition of soil organic matter under a warming climate. Results from the fully-coupled AOGCM also confirm a previously reported pattern of significantly reduced CO2-fertilization of terrestrial carbon uptake compared to simulations without an explicit nitrogen cycle. Our results show a significant growth in the airborne fraction of anthropogenic CO2 emissions over the coming century, attributable in part to a steady decline in the ocean sink fraction.
Carbon-nitrogen interactions regulate climate-carbon cycle feedbacks: results fr
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06-15-2009, 11:17 PM
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Senior Member
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"Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God. -B. Franklin"
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Originally Posted by odanny
What is wrong with you people?
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Care to expand on that?
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06-15-2009, 11:43 PM
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100% Pure Carbon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by momonkey
From 1953 through 1979 average US temperature dropped 0.40 Deg F per decade leading climatologist of the 1970s to warn of an impending Ice Age.
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I was youngin then but can remember so please forgive me being skeptical about the current trends. Here's TIME article, you can replace cooling with warming and it would read like it was written today:
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...944914,00.html
Another Ice Age?
Monday, Jun. 24, 1974
Telltale signs are everywhere —from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest.Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F. Although that figure is at best an estimate, it is supported by other convincing data. When Climatologist George J. Kukla of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory and his wife Helena analyzed satellite weather data for the Northern Hemisphere, they found that the area of the ice and snow cover had suddenly increased by 12% in 1971 and the increase has persisted ever since. Areas of Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, for example, were once totally free of any snow in summer; now they are covered year round.
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06-15-2009, 11:46 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Care to expand on that?
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Yes, science has determined that the earth is getting warmer but I dont need scientists to tell me, I only need to use half my brain to determine this for myself.
There is a church of denial and I believe its all made possible by two things to those who deny the obvious, and they are:
1) A right wing echo chamber of disinformation on the internet, television and other corporate misinformers
2) Dumb people who believe the disinformation. I usually find the reason for that is they take a scientific issue and turn it into a political one
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06-16-2009, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
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I've read the more scientists learn about solar cycles the more links they see between global warming and natural cycles. Some people though, will forever be convinced that man-made warming constitutes the bulk of climate change.
NASA: Solar cycle may cause “dangerous” global cooling in a few years time « Aftermath News
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