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06-15-2009, 04:38 AM
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Global Warming Didn't Exist In The US Until 1979!
In fact, from 1895 through 1979 the annual US average temperature dropped 0.01 Deg F per decade. That's right, it got colder at a time when atmospheric CO2 levels were increasing. But wait, It gets more incredible. From 1953 through 1979 average US temperature dropped 0.40 Deg F per decade leading climatologist of the 1970s to warn of an impending Ice Age. Now consider the Ice Agers looking at temperature data from 1953 to 1979. If that trend continued, we would have lost a staggering 1.20 Deg F since 1979 and be facing near certain extinction from the run away global cooling. If we focus in on the change from 1979 through 2006 we find that the average US temperature increased by a rate of 0.58 Deg F per decade. But the story here isn't that the hottest decade was the late 1990s and early 0s or is it that 1998 was the hottest year in recorded history. The real story is that 1979 was the coldest year in recorded history and 1998 was the warmest. Since 1998 the average annual US temperature has dropped by a rate of 0.77 Deg F per decade. So I have to ask the obvious question, Is Al (stands-to-make-a-lot-of-money) Gore correct or are the Ice Agers correct? I say neither since the US temperature in 1908 averaged 52.82 Deg F and the one for 2008 was 53.02 Deg F. It is exactly 0.20 Deg F hotter today than it was 100 years ago. Global warming is a hoax.
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06-15-2009, 05:27 AM
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Keep the Illegals, Deport the Republicans
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Pretending that global warming is a hoax is a hoax. See Creation Science for details...
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06-15-2009, 06:34 AM
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Pretending that global warming is a hoax is a hoax. See Creation Science for details...
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So NOAA is using false data?
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06-15-2009, 07:07 AM
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Speaking of global warming...........
oh, surely govt officials for Cap & Trade wouldn't resort to witness intimidation, would they?  ..........
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Energy panel Republicans are levying accusations of witness intimidation against Democratic Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), one of the key authors of the contentious House climate change bill.
Republicans have seized on a letter – a copy of which was obtained by The Hill – that Markey penned to Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Chairman Jon Wellinghoff asking FERC to investigate the actions of a major energy company on the same day that the company’s CEO was set to testify before the energy panel on the dangers of a carbon cap and trade system. TheHill.com - GOP charges Markey with climate witness intimidation
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06-15-2009, 01:20 PM
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momonkey,
What do you expect from someone whose motto is:
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Keep the Illegals, Deport the Republicans
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...Obviously the individual is a complete @#$%^
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06-15-2009, 01:27 PM
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I am very glad that the world experienced a major global warming period 15,000 years ago. I would find typing this missive under a couple of miles of ice inconvenient at best and impossible at worse.
IIRC there was a period when the globe was warmer than now during the previous interglacial period. Worry less about the weather or not of global warming and more about surviving it. Like selling all your ocean side real estate to global climate change skeptics.
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06-15-2009, 01:32 PM
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I'm really confused. I followed your link and the first paragraph I see is this:
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The average temperature in May 2009 was 62.5 F. This was 1.4 F warmer than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average, the 24th warmest May in 115 years. The temperature trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.1 degrees Fahrenheit per decade.
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That supports the concept of a warming trends. NOAA does not interpret it's data, it only states it. I suppose my question is what is your background that you know you are interpreting this data correctly?
Also, I am a little confused about the "Ice Agers" you refer to. What does this mean? The ultimate result of a warming trend as suggested by the Global Warming concept is an ice age. Anyone who thinks the current weather is leading us to an ice age is, in essence, acknowledging the truth in Global Warming, because that is what has to happen before a ice age would begin in order to sufficiently stop the jet stream.
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06-15-2009, 01:40 PM
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Hundreds of scientists on either side of the global warming fence will never come to concurrence on the issue. Some say we're burning, others say we're freezing. Meanwhile, for the sheeple (otherwise known as liberals), global warming is just another feel-good, warm and fuzzy coat-tail to jump on and ride in their attempt to blame the United States for the world's ills.
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06-15-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jillaceae
I'm really confused. I followed your link and the first paragraph I see is this:
That supports the concept of a warming trends. NOAA does not interpret it's data, it only states it. I suppose my question is what is your background that you know you are interpreting this data correctly?
Also, I am a little confused about the "Ice Agers" you refer to. What does this mean? The ultimate result of a warming trend as suggested by the Global Warming concept is an ice age. Anyone who thinks the current weather is leading us to an ice age is, in essence, acknowledging the truth in Global Warming, because that is what has to happen before a ice age would begin in order to sufficiently stop the jet stream.
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Well, if your that easily confused by a simple chart I can see why you simply depend on the interpretation of the data from someone who stands gain from a pending disaster,
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06-15-2009, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by momonkey
In fact, from 1895 through 1979 the annual US average temperature dropped 0.01 Deg F per decade. That's right, it got colder at a time when atmospheric CO2 levels were increasing. But wait, It gets more incredible. From 1953 through 1979 average US temperature dropped 0.40 Deg F per decade leading climatologist of the 1970s to warn of an impending Ice Age. Now consider the Ice Agers looking at temperature data from 1953 to 1979. If that trend continued, we would have lost a staggering 1.20 Deg F since 1979 and be facing near certain extinction from the run away global cooling. If we focus in on the change from 1979 through 2006 we find that the average US temperature increased by a rate of 0.58 Deg F per decade. But the story here isn't that the hottest decade was the late 1990s and early 0s or is it that 1998 was the hottest year in recorded history. The real story is that 1979 was the coldest year in recorded history and 1998 was the warmest. Since 1998 the average annual US temperature has dropped by a rate of 0.77 Deg F per decade. So I have to ask the obvious question, Is Al (stands-to-make-a-lot-of-money) Gore correct or are the Ice Agers correct? I say neither since the US temperature in 1908 averaged 52.82 Deg F and the one for 2008 was 53.02 Deg F. It is exactly 0.20 Deg F hotter today than it was 100 years ago. Global warming is a hoax.
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Watts Up With That?: 1998 no longer the hottest year on record in USA
You are arguing a case that has already been proven incorrect.
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http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.D.txt
Steve McIntyre posted this data from NASA's newly published data set from Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) These numbers represent deviation from the mean temperature calculated from temperature measurement stations throughout the USA.
According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 is no longer the hottest year ever. 1934 is.
Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900. (World rankings of temperature are calculated separately.)
Top 10 GISS U.S. Temperature deviation (deg C) in New Order 8/7/2007
Year Old New
1934 1.23 1.25
1998 1.24 1.23
1921 1.12 1.15
2006 1.23 1.13
1931 1.08 1.08
1999 0.94 0.93
1953 0.91 0.90
1990 0.88 0.87
1938 0.85 0.86
1939 0.84 0.85
Here’s the old order of top 10 yearly temperatures.
Year Old New
1998 1.24 1.23
1934 1.23 1.25
2006 1.23 1.13
1921 1.12 1.15
1931 1.08 1.08
1999 0.94 0.93
1953 0.91 0.90
2001 0.90 0.76
1990 0.88 0.87
1938 0.85 0.86
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