The Iranian election: Barack Obama’s cowardly silence (McCain, dictator, parties)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Obama is not just any president in any nation around the world - he is the leader of the free world - or at least that's what the position used to be.

BULL! The position is President of the United States, NOT builder, protector, Godfather, or anything else of other nations.

You damn bleeding heart NeoConfuseds should be worrying about fixing the problems your so-called leaders created here rather than making more silly attempts at nation building.

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by Hesster

Why do I get the impression that no matter what Obama says and does, some of the people here are going to disagree just because it's him?
I mean, seriously. If he had come out with a harshly worded reprimand immediately, do you really think the reaction would have been different? I think the same people would be calling him a warmonger, or complaining he didn't go far enough and he was just talking.
There's just no pleasing some people, I suppose. If the man said snow was white, they'd be calling him a liar.

Exactly. At this point, I would care less if Obama told all these Reps to go **** themselves. They whine at everything he says. Vendetta is the name of their game. It's evident.

Originally Posted by FinkieMcGee

Even if they are (which even I'll admit they probably are based on what I've read) US involvement will only hurt the protesters cause. It would give the current leadership a reason to crack down on them.
American citizens need to get this through their heads: The world is not about you. This event is about Iran and effects Iranian citizens. Let them deal with it.

Here sanrene:
-Barrack Hussein Obama
Are you satisfied with that response or do you need bombs in Iran?

Agreed. We need to butt out of this one. Let them deal with their internal issues.

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Peacefully dissenting ? The few youtubes I watched shows them throwing rocks and bricks, destroying public/private property and starting fires.
I must have missed the ones where they are holding signs and marching (similar to US peaceful protests).

Peaceful protests like the anti-war protests we had here a few short years ago, or the peaceful riots we get after a team wins or loses?

Originally Posted by Jill61

Call them the Axis of Eeeeevil and invade! DUH!

Good ole' Cowboy Diplomacy!! Some douchebags don't understand any other way.

Originally Posted by Jill61

Oh for F*ck's sake. How would you have felt if Iran had gone about waving its d!ck at us in 2000 when George Bush and his cronies in Florida and on the Supreme Court allowed him to steal the election? I mean, it was clear to the world that that man and his thugs stole the election!

Get over your damn sense of self-superiority.

All of a sudden some people are having a brain freeze. They forgot we had messed up elections 9 yrs ago. It was ok, since it happened here, and their man won.

Originally Posted by plannine

Because sanrene loves to say "Obama".

Just like some old fashioned teenage crush!!!

She just can't help repeating it over and over......

Obama......Obama........Obama......

You're just mad your wife said the same the other night. You haven't liked Obama since. I'd worry about the mailman if I were you, not Obama...

[meson]

"Obviously all of us have been watching the news from Iran," Obama said. "And I want to start off by being very clear that it is up to Iranians to make decisions about who Iran's leaders will be; that we respect Iranian sovereignty and want to avoid the United States being the issue inside of Iran, which sometimes the United States can be a handy political football -- or discussions with the United States.
"Having said all that, I am deeply troubled by the violence that I've been seeing on television."
Noting that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has ordered a review of what Obama called "regularities that have taken place," the president said, "We weren't on the ground, we did not have observers there, we did not have international observers on hand, so I can't state definitively one way or another what happened with respect to the election."


Obama 'deeply troubled' by Iran unrest - UPI.com

[Jill61]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Since I have shown that your point (stolen election) is false and therefore invalid, your point is pointless.

You claim "it is clear to the world this man and his thugs stole the election."

REALLY?

Clear to the world how?

Are you privy to investigations, let alone the specific allegations that the protesters are leveling as to how the election was "stolen"?

The same allegation was made in 2000 against George W. Bush. It was equally "clear to the world [George W. Bush] and his thugs stole the election."

So I ask again, how would you have felt if Iran had come rattling their swords at our country over our contested election results?

I'll bet you a million dollars you would have told them to stay the **** out of our damn business.

[NCN]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Ain't it something to behold?

An aside;

It might say "whoops, browser settings.....", but the link works and the title of the thread is the same as the article.

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Yes, what exactly are they waiting for? Wait and see what? The world knows those elections were rigged.

The elections of another country are none of our business. How would you like another country coming in and telling us how to run our elections. And yes, I have wondered about some of our elections too. I would think the less he says about these elections the better. Let that country take care of their problems.

[meson]

Originally Posted by NCN

The elections of another country are none of our business. How would you like another country coming in and telling us how to run our elections. And yes, I have wondered about some of our elections too. I would think the less he says about these elections the better. Let that country take care of their problems.

That's pretty much what President Obama said after he broke his "silence", who'd have thunk he might have had more important matters on his plate....

[NCN]

Originally Posted by meson

That's pretty much what President Obama said after he broke his "silence", who'd have thunk he might have had more important matters on his plate....

I got a good laugh out of that one. The TV station I was watching mentioned that he was going to address the situation and the newsman stated that the people in that country should oppose the election. I could not believe the FOX newsman would be so irresponsible. I made the statement to my husband that we ought to mind our own business or something like that. Obama comes on and says almost exactly the same thing I had said. If there is anybody on these threads that does not know how I feel about Obama as our president, they haven't read any of my posts; but yes, Obama and I agree on this one.

There is a verse in Proverbs that I tried to find that I had read years ago. It is something like: Keep your nose out of your neighbors business, lest he should hate you for it. (Not word for word though.) The president of our country has many duties, but to referee the elections of another country should not be one of them. That is the business of Iran and Iran only, or possibly the United Nations. He just has to deal with relations to the one set in power.

[♠atizar♠]

Apparently, some people won't be happy until he stands up there on a podium snarling and waving his arms around like a tin pot dictator. And funnily enough, out of the other side of their mouths, they were (and still are) saying that the Iranian election outcome was a foregone conclusion. It matters not a lick what Obama did or didn't do, they would still be slavering for a gotcha.

I find it fascinating, in an alarming and chilling sort of way, that in light of their forgone conclusion, they still contrive ways to attack Obama. It's almost as if they want to find something to complain about, but no, people wouldn't do that would they? Especially not such upstanding, flag-waving (after 911 anyway) conservatives who care so deeply about this country that they are wishing, hoping, and actively trying to create the perception that Obama is failing or that he will? These patriots who wish to see a democratically elected leader go down in flames, and take the entire ship down with him, to satisfy a puerile vendetta?. Such patriots are they!

[sanrene]

These patriots wish to see a democratically elected leader go down in flames, and take the entire ship down with him, to satisfy a puerile vendetta?. Such patriots are they!

Where ya been the last 8 years?

[♠atizar♠]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Where ya been the last 8 years, babe?

I never wished for any Bush policy to fail, nor that of any president, and you might be surprised to find out that I loathe LBJ's legacy as much as I do those of other inept presidents we have had, regardless of party affiliation. This is not limited to presidents, it extends to other political positions as well.

I in no way support nor represent anyone who wished for Bush to fail.

Perhaps you might focus on learning the difference between criticism and wishing for failure. I think that much of what we saw coming from the left during the Bush years was criticism (certainly some of it was over-the-top though, at times), and not wishes for failure. Disclaimer: I am not a Democrat (more of a moderate who leans left on social issues, with a mild libertarian streak) and have never been registered with any party, though I do always vote, and I have voted Republican, though not often. So in other words, I don't need to be expected to answer for what any particular constituency chooses to do or say.

All that said, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth loonies who want the President to fail are the worst thing for this country, and one doesn't have to be a radical lefty to see that.