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Walmart will be opening cheap walk in clinics. People who already have insurance are usually okay and should be left alone.
The uninsured are the problem and since they aren't able to come up with anything of their own, if they want the government to pool their money for them and come up with a health care plan for them -- fine with me but keep me and my paycheck out of it.
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If you have to wait an extra three months to get a hemorrhoid removed, so be it. Surgeries will be classed on a necessity basis, and those needing life saving procedures could now get them, without knowing they will be broke without any insurance without coverage, thereby increasing survival rates.
I'm all about prioritizing, and making universal healthcare a reality.
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I've seen some of those. Maybe Switzerland will be a better model for us. It's the most market oriented of the UHC systems. Trying to keep healthcare costs cheap the way Japan does as pointed out has caused 50% of their hospitals to have deficit problems.
We should look at UHC systems all over the world and design the best one for us. But these folks that say "no public option" are just fooling themselves if they think anything else will get the job done. We need a "public option"- even if it is just for catastrophic care.
If Obama is open to it I hope he considers the most reasonable sounding views of those who advocate for non or less gov't approaches to healthcare reforms. Such as the views of people at the Cato institute for example. It's obvious now that a gov't or public plan can't be afforded.
What can't be afforded is to continue down the path that we are on. Do you not hear these complaints that a public plan will put private insurers out of business? How can that be unless it is the case that private sector health care simply cannot compete with public sector health care. For the private sector to suffer, the price/quality provided by the public sector would have to be superior in the eyes of consumers. Private sector whiners seem to see that as a certainty. There is good reason for them to see the situation that way.
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These gov't run UHC systems are more complicated to fund and manage than many Americans realize. Just read up on them from Canadian,UK and Australian news sources.
Baloney. The current US system throws some 25% of health care dollars not at care, but at administrative costs. It is the most inefficient system in the developed world.
Exactly. You can't quote these fools. They are about money not people.
If only more people would stop going to their doctor to protest their opposition to a single payer health care system.
Of course those with chronic illnesses and such...I wouldn't advocate it.
If I knew my doctor was in opposition to a single payer system, I'd gladly find a new one.
With this recession and people losing their jobs [and health insurance] doctors should already be on edge. Plus many Americans have said they put off going to the doctor for financial reasons. Sad, sad...sad.
Walmart will be opening cheap walk in clinics. People who already have insurance are usually okay and should be left alone.
The uninsured are the problem and since they aren't able to come up with anything of their own, if they want the government to pool their money for them and come up with a health care plan for them -- fine with me but keep me and my paycheck out of it.
I don't know about the uninsured being THE problem.
Doctors are also part of the problem too. The way we compensate doctors is a problem.
I have insurance and I'd love to have a single payer system. I think the American people should be given a public OPTION. I don't think it should be mandatory but if we choose to be in it, it will come out of our paychecks and not everyone else's. Just like the money for the health insurance you receive from your employer comes out your paycheck.
The way things are shaping up, it looks the insurance companies will continue to come out on top.
I have insurance and I'd love to have a single payer system.
What are you basing your desire for a single payer system on? Which country has a single payer system that you would like to see implemented in America?
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