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Old 06-22-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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I disagree.

Where, IN this country; can children buy tobacco, w/o being stopped on the ID check?

I know I don't have to show my ID anymore to go to the casino or buy liquor (both have to be 21yrs old), but until I LOOK 40yrs old or older, I STILL get carded for cigarettes.

I know kids are looking older and older every year, but NO kid I know looks over 40yrs old.
Gee, I guess no kids smoke, then
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:43 PM
 
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This is the LAST STRAW. I would vote for anyone, up to and including a ham sandwhich before I ever vote for Obama in 2012.

Today, Obama signed the single most fascist piece of legislation since the Patriot Act. An anti-smoking bill which bans any flavor in tobacco, including my cloves!

Washington's Marlboro Men - WSJ.com


What the hell! I mean, is it bad for me? YES, I KNOW. Do I smoke in front of people who don't smoke? NO. So, as an adult, I am no longer allowed to do with my body what I want to do with my body. Thanks, Mein Furher, for running my life better then I can run it

I mean, America has an epidemic of obesity that is killing people left and right...so, why doesn't Obama ban the flavor chocolate? Why stop with kreteks?

The whole thing is absurd and really has got me angry. And no, I AM STILL NOT QUITTING! IF ANYTHING, THIS LAW MAKES ME WANNA SMOKE MORE OUT OF SPITE!

I will either A) buy them from the internet where I am sure I can get them on there somewhere from Canada or something, because the law does not effect imports or B), buy pipe tobacco and add spices and roll my own damn cloves.

And you know, people are saying how great it is to have a "pro-choice" president who respects a woman's right to a choose...but what about MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE how the hell I want to poison my body!?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OF OF MY BODY AND OUT OF MY LUNGS!


I am 27, black, and from the blue state of New Jersey, and there is no way in hell I would ever vote for this Fascist piece of human filth ever again.
do what you want. you're already an addict. You're giving all the protestations, rationales and resentments an addict typically shows....for awhile.

No one is stopping you from smoking.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by victorianpunk View Post
This is the LAST STRAW. I would vote for anyone, up to and including a ham sandwhich before I ever vote for Obama in 2012.

Today, Obama signed the single most fascist piece of legislation since the Patriot Act. An anti-smoking bill which bans any flavor in tobacco, including my cloves!

Washington's Marlboro Men - WSJ.com


What the hell! I mean, is it bad for me? YES, I KNOW. Do I smoke in front of people who don't smoke? NO. So, as an adult, I am no longer allowed to do with my body what I want to do with my body. Thanks, Mein Furher, for running my life better then I can run it

I mean, America has an epidemic of obesity that is killing people left and right...so, why doesn't Obama ban the flavor chocolate? Why stop with kreteks?

The whole thing is absurd and really has got me angry. And no, I AM STILL NOT QUITTING! IF ANYTHING, THIS LAW MAKES ME WANNA SMOKE MORE OUT OF SPITE!

I will either A) buy them from the internet where I am sure I can get them on there somewhere from Canada or something, because the law does not effect imports or B), buy pipe tobacco and add spices and roll my own damn cloves.

And you know, people are saying how great it is to have a "pro-choice" president who respects a woman's right to a choose...but what about MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE how the hell I want to poison my body!?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OF OF MY BODY AND OUT OF MY LUNGS!


I am 27, black, and from the blue state of New Jersey, and there is no way in hell I would ever vote for this Fascist piece of human filth ever again.

Way to go, man!! Stick to principles and what feels right and you cannot go wrong.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by Cav Scout wife View Post
I disagree.

Where, IN this country; can children buy tobacco, w/o being stopped on the ID check?

I know I don't have to show my ID anymore to go to the casino or buy liquor (both have to be 21yrs old), but until I LOOK 40yrs old or older, I STILL get carded for cigarettes.

I know kids are looking older and older every year, but NO kid I know looks over 40yrs old.
I look all of my 76 years and still they ask me my birthdate when I try to buy Copenhagen Long Cut for my 24 year old son. I just make up something anywhere from 1910 to 1950 and never get questioned. They are just doing what the law says they must do.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Way to go, man!! Stick to principles and what feels right and you cannot go wrong.
I hope you said that tongue in cheek.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:11 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Gee, I guess no kids smoke, then
Did I say that?

I said they are not buying them, no mention of people that buy them for the kids, no mention of the kids stealing them from others.

Last I checked, the only fruit/liquor flavored tobacco products I have seen are blunts, and NO ONE actually smokes those! They are purchased, but then emptied and refilled with other smokable plant material.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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victorianpunk, I must tell you a little story about the human body.

My brother was diagnosed with cancer of the esophagus in 2001 about three weeks before I was diagnosed as very close to the same disease. When I asked him how often he had gerd he replied two or three times a week. I had had that horrible burning sensation at the thought of food for nearly 10 years and yet I didn't get the final thing. My brother died of cancer about 6 months later. I had heartburn all the time for ten years and am still around.

I just want you to know that the number of times really doesn't seem to make any difference in the human body. Quitting now, at 27, would be better than at 92 like my dad did after he already had emphysema. After you get there it is too late to try to go back.

Now you keep on with the smoking. Remember that an old man told you that eating at McDonalds is something he stopped about 20 years ago, for health only. My body was given me by God and I abused it for 50 years and finally figured out what I was doing.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This is the LAST STRAW. I would vote for anyone, up to and including a ham sandwhich before I ever vote for Obama in 2012.

Today, Obama signed the single most fascist piece of legislation since the Patriot Act. An anti-smoking bill which bans any flavor in tobacco, including my cloves!

Washington's Marlboro Men - WSJ.com


What the hell! I mean, is it bad for me? YES, I KNOW. Do I smoke in front of people who don't smoke? NO. So, as an adult, I am no longer allowed to do with my body what I want to do with my body. Thanks, Mein Furher, for running my life better then I can run it

I mean, America has an epidemic of obesity that is killing people left and right...so, why doesn't Obama ban the flavor chocolate? Why stop with kreteks?

The whole thing is absurd and really has got me angry. And no, I AM STILL NOT QUITTING! IF ANYTHING, THIS LAW MAKES ME WANNA SMOKE MORE OUT OF SPITE!

I will either A) buy them from the internet where I am sure I can get them on there somewhere from Canada or something, because the law does not effect imports or B), buy pipe tobacco and add spices and roll my own damn cloves.

And you know, people are saying how great it is to have a "pro-choice" president who respects a woman's right to a choose...but what about MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE how the hell I want to poison my body!?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OF OF MY BODY AND OUT OF MY LUNGS!


I am 27, black, and from the blue state of New Jersey, and there is no way in hell I would ever vote for this Fascist piece of human filth ever again.
I would add one more thing to your post: Young, black, and intelligent!

I thank God for you. Thank God that there are some among you (I'm sure there are many others) who will speak up, and recognize that this man is not good for America. So many of us (sadly) I think have an attitude that blacks support Obama simply because he is black. I thank God that this is not necessarily the case. That gives me great hope for America.

Welcome to the ranks of those of us who wish to preserve our freedom, our country and our American way of life, and recommit America to the cause of freedom for all and to be a beacon to the rest of the world, as our founders believed we should be.

Great post!
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:23 PM
 
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victorianpunk

Congratulations, you not only proven that an African American can be as intellectually frivolous, and damned near as airheaded as the average oaf, but you have been elevated to "Great White Hope" status as well! Bravo.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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This is the LAST STRAW. I would vote for anyone, up to and including a ham sandwhich before I ever vote for Obama in 2012.

Today, Obama signed the single most fascist piece of legislation since the Patriot Act. An anti-smoking bill which bans any flavor in tobacco, including my cloves!

Washington's Marlboro Men - WSJ.com


What the hell! I mean, is it bad for me? YES, I KNOW. Do I smoke in front of people who don't smoke? NO. So, as an adult, I am no longer allowed to do with my body what I want to do with my body. Thanks, Mein Furher, for running my life better then I can run it

I mean, America has an epidemic of obesity that is killing people left and right...so, why doesn't Obama ban the flavor chocolate? Why stop with kreteks?

The whole thing is absurd and really has got me angry. And no, I AM STILL NOT QUITTING! IF ANYTHING, THIS LAW MAKES ME WANNA SMOKE MORE OUT OF SPITE!

I will either A) buy them from the internet where I am sure I can get them on there somewhere from Canada or something, because the law does not effect imports or B), buy pipe tobacco and add spices and roll my own damn cloves.

And you know, people are saying how great it is to have a "pro-choice" president who respects a woman's right to a choose...but what about MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE how the hell I want to poison my body!?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OF OF MY BODY AND OUT OF MY LUNGS!


I am 27, black, and from the blue state of New Jersey, and there is no way in hell I would ever vote for this Fascist piece of human filth ever again.


welcome to the wonderful world of Obama Rules
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