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Old 06-23-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I was responding to your broad generalization of the educational level of these people. I believe your responding to something totally different. I did not give my opinion on whether or not they are or are not racists, bias or idiots.

my point is that education is relative. bush went to yale for crying out loud. I know all kinds of educated idiots.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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Judging for the initial responses, its pretty evident that most are pretty ignorant of the complex history of the NOI. Certainly the basic precepts of the Nation are based upon a ridiculous formulation that has little to do with Islam proper and more to do with the wild rantings of a long dead lunatic who had more in common with Brigham Young than one might initially think.

To go into the history and make up of the NOI would take considerable time and effort, it is a story that complex and contradictory. Is it racist, or a product of racism... I tend to believe that later to be the case, which by the way is no excuse for the racial invective which underlies its teachings as even Malcolm X came to recognize before his untimely assassination (is there such a thing as a timely assassination?).


This is correct. Muslims do not recognize this spurious "religion" and NOI has little in common with real Islam. Well, except for their propensity to violence.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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As former N.Y. law enforcement..I can tell you 100% that this group is racist and murdering. (just look what happened to Malcom X)
They do NOTHING to help the black community,nothing! They rule there areas with a iron fist and most blacks do NOT like or agree with them.
Everything they do is to meet there OWN ends and NOT the communities.
I know that the NOI has mentioned some very racist comments about White people, that I disagree with!

But here is the difference between the NOI and The Klan or Skin Heads.


NOI membership has Blacks, Arab, Asian, Hispanic and White members.

The Klan and Skin heads- 100% White with some other ethnic groups that are not Black.

The NOI helped millions of Black men in the inner-city change their lives by being devoted in Islam.

I'm not a NOI member but they did help Blacks that were in the inner-city.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: AL
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I know that the NOI has mentioned some very racist comments about White people, that I disagree with!

But here is the difference between the NOI and The Klan or Skin Heads.


NOI membership has Blacks, Arab, Asian, Hispanic and White members.

The Klan and Skin heads- 100% White with some other ethnic groups that are not Black.

The NOI helped millions of Black men in the inner-city change their lives by being devoted in Islam.

I'm not a NOI member but they did help Blacks that were in the inner-city.
Sorry to say, your out of your league on this 1.
I have delt with this group for many yrs...they are racist and murdering..End of story.

This has nothing to do with the klan or skin heads...there racist as well as NOI...and?

I'll say this again...everything they do is to meet there "own" ends not the community.

So everyone who "thinks" they know....have fun with this thread.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Sorry to say, your out of your league on this 1.
I have delt with this group for many yrs...they are racist and murdering..End of story.

This has nothing to do with the klan or skin heads...there racist as well as NOI...and?

I'll say this again...everything they do is to meet there "own" ends not the community.

So everyone who "thinks" they know....have fun with this thread.
But I witness with my own eye's many people that changed their lives. Once felons who didn't care about no man( Black, White, Asian, Hispanic or others), start helping kids in the hood that need guidance!

I'm a Christian!!

But I do not know of any Racist that will help poor kids in the Ghetto!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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my point is that education is relative. bush went to yale for crying out loud. I know all kinds of educated idiots.

LMAO..point well taken.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Default Racist are IDIOTS!

"When you hate the other person who suffers is you, because most of the people you hate don't know it and the others don't care. (Medgar Evers)

I hate racist with a passion!!!!

Blacks that killed their own people are Racist also!

I despise people that don't want to snitch when they know who the murderer is! That person is a Klan member that will allow a murderer to walk around free!!

Just like the judicial system during the time this legend (Medgar Evers) was killed!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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Final, you would be amazed, although many were formerly in prison. More often for non-violent crimes, but there are Many that are very educated.
Don't bother, let him have his fun...
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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This is correct. Muslims do not recognize this spurious "religion" and NOI has little in common with real Islam. Well, except for their propensity to violence.
While I am no defender of the NOI, what propensity to violence would that be, and for that matter what propensity to violence is indicative to almost a billion Muslims?
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:15 PM
 
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Snoop Dogg is surprisingly a NOI member. It's interesting because his lifestyle doesn't really represent what NOI stands for
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