Universal health care- For or against? (illegal, polls, speech, companies)

[fishmonger]

Originally Posted by silas777

Seriously ? $280.00 a month for tv? That would go along way to paying for health insurance

Depends on your medical history... might go a long way, might not

[windflower]

Originally Posted by silas777

Seriously ? $280.00 a month for tv? That would go along way to paying for health insurance

I'd like to know where one can get a standard individual health insurance policy for even double that amount (in other words $600/mo)! Certainly not in any of the Northeastern states which is where I live. I haven't seen anything less than $1000/mo in the past few years. $600/mo is more like a group rate, not private....

I have Dish Network and have been paying about $54/mo until just recently, when I upgraded from the Top 180 to the Top 250 for an additional $10; so now my bill is $64. I don't have any of the 'premium movie channels' because IMHO there is nothing on any of those worth paying for.

[LeavingFlorida05]

I'm for universal health care, but only if there are some serious constraints. I don't like the idea of socialized medicine, but it seems people are arguing extremes, in this thread. Well, at least one side is arguing an extreme. Our system has some serious problems and neither pure socialism or capitalism will solve them.

[JerZ]

Originally Posted by fishmonger

And in many ways so do you, I'd imagine. What do you think we have firemen, police, and a millitary for?

Or are you one of those extreme right econ-libertarians who thinks we should privatize those as well?

Yeah that.

[Coyote_Blond]

Originally Posted by spunky1

I am against it. I believe if people need assistance they can look to their friends, families, community, and churches. That is how it use to be and it worked out fine. All we have to do is look to our northern neighbor and see that socialized medicine does not work.

(CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP)

There are other countries it's failing in as well. That aside, someone mentioned earlier that just because someone's leeching the system that doesn't mean they're not worthy of medical care. I say double HAH! I started from scratch penniless. I crawled & dragged myself up. I avoided making stupid decisions. I also never bypassed a Help Wanted sign with a plethora of excuses as to why I couldn't work 'there'. I didn't recieve food stamps only to stand in line buying smokes, cocoa puffs & candy while my kid wore Goodwill flip flops in December. After living for 8 years now in a part of the country that thrives on assistance I am completely disgusted. I see a MAJORITY of people fully capable of working & they don't. So no, I don't want them to recieve recieve recieve! It's ridiculous. And my taxes are taken out so they can lazily suck it up. And if the Liberals have their way I'll give them more. ENOUGH!

[ShadowXOR]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Evidentally so . . . I would guess Shadow is young and idealistic, and when he is making more money will not be so willing. . . and his qualifier "if I make far more money than you" is interesting.

If I don't make much more than you, then I probably can't afford it either. Of course I would need to make far more than you. It's common sense.

I would say less young and idealistic, and more logical and compassionate.

[ShadowXOR]

Originally Posted by LeavingFlorida05

I'm for universal health care, but only if there are some serious constraints. I don't like the idea of socialized medicine, but it seems people are arguing extremes, in this thread. Well, at least one side is arguing an extreme. Our system has some serious problems and neither pure socialism or capitalism will solve them.

Bravo! Exactly.

[JerZ]

Deleted--answered the wrong thread!

[carolinajack]

i joyously give to charity, through my church and through Non profit organizations. I dont believe the government is the way we should provide health services or educational services but rather the community, the people themselves

[LeavingFlorida05]

Originally Posted by carolinajack

i joyously give to charity, through my church and through Non profit organizations. I dont believe the government is the way we should provide health services or educational services but rather the community, the people themselves

See, now I don't donate to churches. I've seen far too many preachers driving luxury cars.