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Originally Posted by Bluefly
You know what's sad, thefinalsay. Someone started a thread the day that tragedy in DC happened and warned that conservatives would try to use the tragedy to condemn mass transit.
Conservatives jumped on that accusation, accusing the individual of being classless and barbaric.
And yet, here you are, doing PRECISELY what that poster predicted.
You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
But, since you won't be, please explain this extension of your logic:
number killed in the DC Metro accident: 9
Number of people killed in automobile accidents every YEAR in the United States:
about 42,000.
Shall we assume that when government is not in control, FAR more people are murdered in automobiles?
I didn't condem mass transit. read the first page of the thread when I said that I wish obama would have followed through with what he said about updating the railroads. he hasn't of course. I was pointing out more the employees of the metro. they hire some world class morons.
Instead of possibly making our roads worse to save a buck, how about cutting off funding to other nations, especially those that have proven to be no friend of ours? Think about how much money we would save.
Casper
LOL. The theory behind using the roads and police examples is that they are so simple, a caveman could understand them. The theory doesn't always hold up in practice, I guess. But I'm sure that you've actually been given many, many other examples that didn't sink in either. Things like the national weather service, or the air traffic control system, or food and drug inspections, or maintaining diplomatic relations with other nations, or running the judicial system that backs up the rule of law, or the national park system, or basic medical research, or disaster relief and assistance, or building codes and inspectors, or on and on and on. I know I've seen these many other examples presented in various threads at various times...why haven't you?
These are, of course, all examples of the sorts of things that the private sector is incapable of providing effectively, and that troglodyte right-wingers derive benefit from every day but are too cheap and selfish to be willing to pick up any of the tab for. They'd rather just be lazy welfare recipients who suck off the government teat, slurping up public goods and services while never paying for any of them. Irresponsible, freeloading, wastes of time, if you ask me. So one of the real questions might be how many freaking examples do you people need? And another might be why should anybody bother to provide examples at all when you're basically just not man enough to play the game by the rules to begin with?
What world are you living in? All of these things have been provided effectively by the private sector. And much cheaper than government can do it. Including roads, police and fire. There is no reason why the police and roads couldn't be privatized right now. We would clearly all be better off.
Please explain why these things can't be provided for by private industry. I mean, by your thinking then fountain pens could be provided for by the government.
No it should not be. States care for local roads and state highways. National highways and the interstate system are Federal- and should be. And if we ever did say "OK all highways are state responsibility", do you know who would scream to high heaven? The RED states! Especially those out west that have many many miles of highways per resident. States like Montana, Wyoming, Utah and the Dakotas could not even BEGIN to pay to maintain highways that are damaged by harsh winter weather and require heavy maintenance expenses. Their gas tax would be like $5 a gallon! It is because the URBAN states where there are many people per mile of highway pay the tax that they are able to maintain their roads. And I am not complaining about it because that is what the country should do. What is good for Montana is good for the country and what is good for the country is good for me!
The constitution specifically forbids the feds from having anything to do with roads. So, you are wrong.
as many of you know, I think the federal government sucks. every time I suggest shrinking the size of the federal government or ask what good the government does, all I get is, "I guess you don't want roads."
really?
this is the best you got?
have you been on a highway recently? isn't the huge gas tax we pay supposed to be used to fix roads? seriously, does anyone out there honestly think that we couldn't cut spending by at least 75%?
and please, big government supporters, get an argument better than roads, or local police. really, what does the government provide for the trillions they extort?
Got a big fat democrats only slush fund set aside for 2010 that used to be called a "stimulus package". Our kids will pay to have democras steal the 2010 mid-terms.
What world are you living in? All of these things have been provided effectively by the private sector. And much cheaper than government can do it. Including roads, police and fire. There is no reason why the police and roads couldn't be privatized right now. We would clearly all be better off.
Please explain why these things can't be provided for by private industry. I mean, by your thinking then fountain pens could be provided for by the government.
I implore you to study the private police and fire companies of the 19th century and see how well they worked. There's a reason they were socialized. They would fight one another for every call and corruption ran rampant and areas weren't covered. It was pretty ugly.
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