Obama discusses deathbed measures Stop futile procedures on people who are about to die (Congress, drug)

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

In a nationally televised event at the White House, Obama said families need better information so they don't unthinkingly approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."

I'm learning that what is said in speeches and on TV is not necessarily the same as what is put on paper and approved as law.

Cap & Trade is one of them which is currently being debated.
Obama never once mentioned the sheer amount of additional NEW taxes and fees this will require in his speeches but it sure is right there in black and white in the bill currently on the House floor.

[Siouxcia]

MedlinePlus: Advance Directives

Advance directives are legal documents that allow you to convey your decisions about end-of-life care ahead of time. They provide a way for you to communicate your wishes to family, friends and health care professionals, and to avoid confusion later on.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Siouxcia

MedlinePlus: Advance Directives

But isn't that for "I don't want any more to prolong life" type of documents ?

What if it goes the other way though..doctors deciding that you don't need that treatment based on your current health and studies on whether or not the next procedure is considered "needless" ?

[Miborn]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

I'm learning that what is said in speeches and on TV is not necessarily the same as what is put on paper and approved as law.

Cap & Trade is one of them which is currently being debated.
Obama never once mentioned the sheer amount of additional NEW taxes and fees this will require in his speeches but it sure is right there in black and white in the bill currently on the House floor.

[newtoli]

Main Entry:
fu·tile Listen to the pronunciation of futile Listen to the pronunciation of futile
Pronunciation:
\ˈfyü-təl, ˈfyü-ˌtī(-ə)l\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin futilis brittle, pointless, probably from fu- (akin to fundere to pour) — more at found
Date:
circa 1555

1 : serving no useful purpose : completely ineffective <efforts to convince him were futile>

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by Miborn

WOW JUST WOW!




At a healthcare town hall, he says stopping futile procedures for the terminally ill can lower costs.
By Peter Nicholas
June 25, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- President Obama suggested at a town hall event Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die and don't stand to gain from the extra care.

In a nationally televised event at the White House, Obama said families need better information so they don't unthinkingly approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."


Obama discusses deathbed measures - Los Angeles Times

Or wasting taxpayer money on expensive medical treatments for 100 year old women?

Jane Sturm told the story of her nearly 100-year-old mother, who was originally denied a pacemaker because of her age. She eventually got one, but only after seeking out another doctor.

"Outside the medical criteria," Sturm asked, "is there a consideration that can be given for a certain spirit ... and quality of life?"

"I don't think that we can make judgments based on peoples' spirit," Obama said. "That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people.

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[KevK]

Originally Posted by Miborn

WOW JUST WOW!




At a healthcare town hall, he says stopping futile procedures for the terminally ill can lower costs.
By Peter Nicholas
June 25, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- President Obama suggested at a town hall event Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die and don't stand to gain from the extra care.

In a nationally televised event at the White House, Obama said families need better information so they don't unthinkingly approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."


Obama discusses deathbed measures - Los Angeles Times

I FULLY 100% agree. ALL treatments should be weighed with cost, side effects and prognosis considered. People who are death's doorstep should be made comfortable but all life prolonging treatments should cease when the doctors agree that it is futile.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by Miborn

What words other than WOW JUST WOW are mine?
Take the blinders off and read the "one's" own words. What we have been warning and what has been said before.
The obama administration wants to pick and choose who receives what care, when and for how long.
It is NOT the Govs place to choose someones medical care it is up to the families involved.

But what do you expect from a administration that says the
"old should just die gracefully"

It should not be left up to families. It should be left up to Medical professionals as to when it is time to pull the plug. The family can have input into that if they wish but it should not be their decision in the end.

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

I'm learning that what is said in speeches and on TV is not necessarily the same as what is put on paper and approved as law.

Cap & Trade is one of them which is currently being debated.
Obama never once mentioned the sheer amount of additional NEW taxes and fees this will require in his speeches but it sure is right there in black and white in the bill currently on the House floor.

0bama was pretty stright up on skyrocketing electricity costs for his cap & trade plan:

During Obama's January 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle:

"You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know - Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers."

[snip]So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can - it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

then again, on June 23rd, just three days ago 0bama said:

"At a time of great fiscal challenges, this legislation is paid for by the polluters who currently emit the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe."

Hmmm, he said last year, when describing what the coal power plants would do: "They will pass that money on to consumers."

[cdne]

Originally Posted by karfar

I know how to read, thanks. I'm just not sure some others know how.

Moderator cut: RUDE The article is quite straightforward, and the OP did not take anything out of context.

Basically Obama said that giving one a painkiller and letting them die is the best procedure in some cases. The question remains, "who will determine when that is the best",....the doctors, or the government.

You seem to have all the answers, yet the bill has not even been authored yet. Obama is leaving the writing of the obamacare boondoggle to his liberal cronies.