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Old 06-27-2009, 02:19 AM
 
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You can "doubt" it all you want. Statistically, if the charges are true, this child has virtually no chance of living a normal life. Do your research.

I find it stupefying that someone would be more concerned about the rights of the abuser than of the abused. I know it makes you feel spiritually and ethically superior to defend the father. Your defense of him might even reflect a superior and more evolved spiritual and ethical plane than my own. I can live with it.
I am not defending the father. Quite the contrary. However, I do not feel the need to rush to judgment at this particular time.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:24 AM
 
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I am not defending the father. Quite the contrary. However, I do not feel the need to rush to judgment at this particular time.
Well, I do.

I don't support the death penalty, as a general rule. But all crimes are not equally heinous. When it comes to children, all bets are off, as far as I'm concerned. If the charges are true, if this person sexually abused this child consistently for the whole 5 years of this child's life, he does not deserve to live.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:33 AM
 
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I am not defending the father. Quite the contrary. However, I do not feel the need to rush to judgment at this particular time.
Some information for you:

Sexual Abuse of Infants: A five-part question focusing on sexual abuse during infancy :::: Welcome to Child Trauma Academy ::::::::::: (http://www.childtrauma.org/ctamaterials/infant_abuse.asp - broken link)

Understanding child maltreatment: an ... - Google Books
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:41 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Does anyone know if there is an adoptive mother to the child? Otherwise I don't know what will happen to the poor little boy - probably foster care.

Which brings me to question how is 20 years the appropriate punishment for this crime? My god, drug dealers get more time. Who knows if the prosecution will be able to get the little boy to testify against his father. Most likely this pos will plead to lesser charges and get lesser time.

I don't care if I burn in hell - I hope someone murders this deplorable human being while in prison.
There is no adoptive mother. He is a single parent. And yes, he is a homosexual - Big Surprise huh? This is where it comes from. Pedophiles which prey on young boys too young to fight for themselves. They identify with their abuser and become homosexual. Pedophilia is sick.

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The informant described in graphic detail how he allegedly observed Lombard molesting an African-American child on four occasions over an Internet video chat service called ICUii.
Duke U. Official Caught in Alleged Child Sex Sting - ABC News
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Well, I do.

I don't support the death penalty, as a general rule. But all crimes are not equally heinous. When it comes to children, all bets are off, as far as I'm concerned. If the charges are true, if this person sexually abused this child consistently for the whole 5 years of this child's life, he does not deserve to live.
There are way too many people on this thread that have already found this guy guilty and sentenced to death. What you replied to was:

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I am not defending the father. Quite the contrary. However, I do not feel the need to rush to judgment at this particular time.
How can you start off with, "Well I do"?........and then say, "If the charges are true". That's the whole point he's making, we don't know if it's true....if he's guilty....so, why all the death penalty talk (not just you, almost the whole thread).

We just went through this a couple of years back at Duke University.....the La Crosse team got tried, convicted and sentenced by just about everyone (except the court system) the day after the alleged incident happened. Those young men had their lives put on hold and turned upside down for a year or two before finally having their names cleared....not only was the victim (and accuser) an adult and capable of making a statement but, they also had physical evidence which everyone assumed made the case a "slam dunk". It turned out the rape kit showed the victim had sperm in her from multiple males, none of which were from the La Crosse team or her boyfriend.

That should be enough of a lesson learned to know better than to rush to judgement. Although the authorities have confiscated this guy's computer and will be searching through it for more evidence, from what I read (unless I'm wrong), the evidence so far is all based off of some chat room sex talk. The chat room talk by the father shows a need for action to be taken to protect the child's welfare in the future but, so far doesn't prove he was physically/sexually abused with any certainty.....so let's not rush to judgement.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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There is no adoptive mother. He is a single parent. And yes, he is a homosexual - Big Surprise huh? This is where it comes from. Pedophiles which prey on young boys too young to fight for themselves. They identify with their abuser and become homosexual. Pedophilia is sick.

Duke U. Official Caught in Alleged Child Sex Sting - ABC News

This is undeniably sick.

But lets get one thing straight (if you'll pardon the pun).....homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. After all, look at all the adult male pedophiles who go after little girls -- do you consider them prime examples of heterosexual men? Of course. Pedophilia is a catagory unto itself and does not connect with either hetero or homosexuality.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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There are way too many people on this thread that have already found this guy guilty and sentenced to death. What you replied to was:



How can you start off with, "Well I do"?........and then say, "If the charges are true". That's the whole point he's making, we don't know if it's true....if he's guilty....so, why all the death penalty talk (not just you, almost the whole thread).

We just went through this a couple of years back at Duke University.....the La Crosse team got tried, convicted and sentenced by just about everyone (except the court system) the day after the alleged incident happened. Those young men had their lives put on hold and turned upside down for a year or two before finally having their names cleared....not only was the victim (and accuser) an adult and capable of making a statement but, they also had physical evidence which everyone assumed made the case a "slam dunk". It turned out the rape kit showed the victim had sperm in her from multiple males, none of which were from the La Crosse team or her boyfriend.

That should be enough of a lesson learned to know better than to rush to judgement. Although the authorities have confiscated this guy's computer and will be searching through it for more evidence, from what I read (unless I'm wrong), the evidence so far is all based off of some chat room sex talk. The chat room talk by the father shows a need for action to be taken to protect the child's welfare in the future but, so far doesn't prove he was physically/sexually abused with any certainty.....so let's not rush to judgement.

The difference is that the LaCrosse team were accused by the stripper yet always maintained their innocense.

In this case Lombard is condemned by his own words and pictures. Big difference imo.

Now could there be an argument that Lombard was making it all up -- fantasizing online what he wouldn't do in real life? Perhaps. But still, what a complete pos freak to even fantasize about raping your own sons. I won't shed tears for this guy nor am I convinced that there is a chance this is all a simple misunderstanding.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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There is no adoptive mother. He is a single parent. And yes, he is a homosexual - Big Surprise huh? This is where it comes from. Pedophiles which prey on young boys too young to fight for themselves. They identify with their abuser and become homosexual. Pedophilia is sick.

Duke U. Official Caught in Alleged Child Sex Sting - ABC News
Amazing. All the good couples who want to adopt infants and they turned one over to a pedophile rapist.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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I think that is a bit exteme. You don't know how this child will turn out, or what is going on with this particular child. You are assuming a lot of things that you are not privy to.

And I am not on any high horse, but if not wanting to rush and kill someone for the sake of "justice" puts me on one, then so be it. I think you need to calm your nerve and take a seat somewhere so that you can get yourself together. You and others are saying some disturbing things.
I don't think it's necessary to give this child rapist the death penalty for the sake of justice but how about instead just to get this piece of slime off the face of the earth?

Why should he be fed and protected in prison the rest of his years, and he can never be released back into society. He's of no use to anyone, he should be put out of his misery.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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There is no adoptive mother. He is a single parent. And yes, he is a homosexual - Big Surprise huh?
His sexual orientation really hadn't occurred to me so yeah that is a big surprise. A lot of men who consider themselves heterosexual prey on same sex children. In some cases I don't think it's as much of the sex of the child but the fact that it's a child. I haven't done any research on this though, that's just my opinion from watching those True Crime shows.

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This is where it comes from. Pedophiles which prey on young boys too young to fight for themselves. They identify with their abuser and become homosexual. Pedophilia is sick.
I don't think it's fair to say that young boys abused by men will become homosexual. Someone could argue that in order to feel like a "man" they have numerous relationships with females. If the child had been a girl, the idea of homosexuality wouldn't have even been brought up. The double standard here is ridiculous.
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