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Old 06-27-2009, 01:24 AM
 
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Also, if the government murders the molester, it makes it impossible to learn anything more about the psychology of the molester, and to perhaps learn how to prevent others from committing the same crime.
They've been studying pedophiles for years.

He's destroyed this child's life. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with the death penalty in cases like this. For one thing, he's not just some child molester wandering around looking for an opportunity (which is horrendous enough). He planned the adoption of an infant with the express purpose of sexually abusing him. Let him fry.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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I understand that, but the state will have to prove that he molested the child. People say all kinds of things in chat rooms that aren't true, especially when they're having conversations of a sexual nature.

I know the evidence against him is significant. I just prefer to take a more rational approach to it than to start expressing a desire for him to get raped and murdered in prison.
Of course he should get a fair trial. But with the evidence they already have, his chances don't look good. If he is found guilty--and barring a miracle, he will be--he should get the death penalty. Period.

Next.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:27 AM
 
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Of course he should get a fair trial. But with the evidence they already have, his chances don't look good. If he is found guilty--and barring a miracle, he will be--he should get the death penalty. Period.

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Your response is based purely on emotion. What would killing this man solve?
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:28 AM
 
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Losing custody of his son, banned from schools, prohibited from socializing with children, being under house arrest, paying a fine, and being required to do community service.
Get real.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:32 AM
 
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Your response is based purely on emotion. What would killing this man solve?
It would be justice for that child. And that's all I care about.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:38 AM
 
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It would be justice for that child. And that's all I care about.
No. There is an element of vengeance in your stance. You want blood. You want blood but you call it "justice" for the child.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:44 AM
 
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No. There is an element of vengeance in your stance. You want blood. You want blood but you call it "justice" for the child.
You're damn straight there's an element of vengeance. I don't want "blood." If he's guilty, I want him dead. Get off your high horse.

If this child has been systematically abused from the time he was an infant, he will never be well. Never. Such a level of sexual abuse on such a young child, and from the child's father, virtually ensures that he is destroyed as a human being. His entire sense of self, including his individuation, has been inextricably linked to psychological and physical violence. As a result, he will never be relieve of suffering, will never live a normal life, and there is a very good possibility that he will grow up to be a pedophile himself. His life has been utterly destroyed virtually before it began. So yeah, I think his destroyer should receive treatment in kind.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:57 AM
 
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You're damn straight there's an element of vengeance. I don't want "blood." If he's guilty, I want him dead. Get off your high horse.

If this child has been systematically abused from the time he was an infant, he will never be well. Never. Such a level of sexual abuse on such a young child, and from the child's father, virtually ensures that he is destroyed as a human being. His entire sense of self, including his individuation, has been inextricably linked to psychological and physical violence. As a result, he will never be relieve of suffering, will never live a normal life, and there is a very good possibility that he will grow up to be a pedophile himself. His life has been utterly destroyed virtually before it began. So yeah, I think his destroyer should receive treatment in kind.
I think that is a bit exteme. You don't know how this child will turn out, or what is going on with this particular child. You are assuming a lot of things that you are not privy to.

And I am not on any high horse, but if not wanting to rush and kill someone for the sake of "justice" puts me on one, then so be it. I think you need to calm your nerve and take a seat somewhere so that you can get yourself together. You and others are saying some disturbing things.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:01 AM
 
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The 20 years is for enticing someone to cross state lines to molest a child. If he is found guilty of actually molesting the child himself, which he claims he did and should be easy to prove, I suspect that will be an additional charge. I doubt this guy, if guilty, will ever set foot outside a prison again.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:09 AM
 
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I think that is a bit exteme. You don't know how this child will turn out, or what is going on with this particular child. You are assuming a lot of things that you are not privy to.

And I am not on any high horse, but if not wanting to rush and kill someone for the sake of "justice" puts me on one, then so be it. I think you need to calm your nerve and take a seat somewhere so that you can get yourself together. You and others are saying some disturbing things.
You can "doubt" it all you want. Statistically, if the charges are true, this child has virtually no chance of living a normal life. Do your research.

I find it stupefying that someone would be more concerned about the rights of the abuser than of the abused. I know it makes you feel spiritually and ethically superior to defend the father. Your defense of him might even reflect a superior and more evolved spiritual and ethical plane than my own. I can live with it.
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