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Old 08-02-2009, 10:43 PM
 
Location: NC
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Yes. If you look at exit polls of how those with post-graduate study voted in both 2004 and 2008 Democrats trounced republicans by 11% or more each time.

Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
CNN.com Election 2004
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:48 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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OK, can someone give me an unbiased definition of what an 'intellectual' is? Is intellect defined by ones politics? I don't thinks so, but, that's just me, of course. I'm no liberal, by any means, yet I have an extensive collection of literature. My son has grown up with the classics of Melville, Milton, Poe, Bulfinche Aseop and many others. We study Tsun Tsu, and Musashi (Shakespeare I find to be quite boring though we still read from his works). When I was much younger and my Father was stationed in the PI, I was fluent in Taglog and the language of the Native Negrito people. Pretty rusty these days, but I'm trying to get it back. Are these things 'intellectual'? Or. does the fact that I support gun rights, my wife being a devout Christian, living in a very rural area, and subscribing to my family traditions, disqualify me for 'intellectual' staus? My spelling and punctuation are not perfect, I don't generally like to use big fancy words, I don't believe that college prepares a person for reality, and I have found college professors to be generally arrogant, rude and high on themselves. Can I qualify as 'intellectual'? I suppose that depends on what the definition of the word is. Can someone elighten as to what that definition is? I ask ,ever so humbly, again.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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If we're talking in a non-professional sense, I would say you qualify as an intellectual.

No one's saying ALL intellectuals are one way or another, just that most tend to lean liberal.

Obviously, politics has a lot more to do with one's demographic and location (white, Christian, rural or black, Christian, urban) than one's intellect. I have lived in big cities and small towns, and found plenty enough amateur intellectuals in both to satisfy my needs.

It doesn't help when rural white people line up behind a non-intellectual like Palin, but the stereotypes about intelligence really frustrate me.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Key West
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Just because a person has a college education does not make them intellectual or smart. Anyone can follow the system and get a masters degree these days. What college does not teach is life smarts or common sense. Colleges seem to be models for group think which makes sense as they are more liberal

This coming from a person with a masters in the sciences
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:32 AM
 
Location: PNW
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Just because a person has a college education does not make them intellectual or smart. Anyone can follow the system and get a masters degree these days. What college does not teach is life smarts or common sense. Colleges seem to be models for group think which makes sense as they are more liberal

This coming from a person with a masters in the sciences
I agree, and I have a masters in the sciences too. Many of the "most educated" people have zero life experience and have lived extremely sheltered lives. Many are elitist who think that "they know better" than those who have lived it. Many of their "solutions" and "ideas" are way off base in "real world" situations. For this reason, people who use the term "intellectuals" or consider themselves "intellectuals" kind of annoy me. Sorry to those who do.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:41 AM
 
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I don't think anyone correlates have a bachelors or even a masters degree with being an intellectual. Perhaps an argument could be made for PhDs, but even then my experience has proven to me that education does not an intellectual make (though it can help for the right people).
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:49 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I don't think anyone correlates have a bachelors or even a masters degree with being an intellectual. Perhaps an argument could be made for PhDs, but even then my experience has proven to me that education does not an intellectual make (though it can help for the right people).
I agree. I think an education coupled with real experience helps. The problem is that many who consider themselves intellectuals don't have the latter.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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All things considered, Are intellectuals mainly Liberals in your opinion?





No,but the liberals think so. That's what makes them elitists.
Most true intellectuals are in the middle, open minded and learning.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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If we're talking in a non-professional sense, I would say you qualify as an intellectual.

No one's saying ALL intellectuals are one way or another, just that most tend to lean liberal.

Obviously, politics has a lot more to do with one's demographic and location (white, Christian, rural or black, Christian, urban) than one's intellect. I have lived in big cities and small towns, and found plenty enough amateur intellectuals in both to satisfy my needs.

It doesn't help when rural white people line up behind a non-intellectual like Palin, but the stereotypes about intelligence really frustrate me.
Gov. Palin was the governor of a state and she appealed to people who do not consider themselves to be intellectuals. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Yes. If you look at exit polls of how those with post-graduate study voted in both 2004 and 2008 Democrats trounced republicans by 11% or more each time.

Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
CNN.com Election 2004
The Democrat Party is less than 50% liberal. And Obama also took the no high school diploma demographic by almost 30%
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