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Old 06-27-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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I don't think they can get medicaid. The emergency care they get is written off if they don't pay the bill.
Sure they do -- look up "Emergency Medicaid". That's what pays for them when they come to the hospital in labor or for any kind of condition.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:24 AM
 
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No need to speculate on whether illegal aliens are eligible or not for Medicaid. Go direct to the source: Who is eligible for Medicaid? (http://www.hhs.gov/faq/medicaremedicaid/653.html - broken link)

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Only US citizens and legal immigrants (green card holders) are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens have never been eligible for Medicaid. The statement that illegals can get Medicaid is a myth.

You really need to do more research.

JAMA -- Trends in Emergency Medicaid Expenditures for Recent and Undocumented Immigrants, March 14, 2007, DuBard and Massing 297 (10): 1085

A total of 48 391 individuals received services reimbursed under Emergency Medicaid during the 4-year period of this study. The patient population was 99% undocumented, 93% Hispanic, 95% female, and 89% in the 18- to 40-year age group.

-- in other words, able bodied illegals coming here to give birth, and once they give birth after all the free prenatal care and maternity care, the regular
Medicaid kicks in.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Their anchor babies get up to 1 year covered as well; they just have to document the baby was born on US soil via birth certificate.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I beg to differ with you and I know from actual experience. I have been self-employed without insurance a couple of times and my children were never refused treatment. My son had second and third degree burns that we were taking care of ourselves and when the school nurse noticed. She sent us to a clinic that took care of everything, pain meds, suave, antibiotics, etc.. I offered to pay and they refused to take payment because I did not have health insurance. I guess it just depends how someone handles their situation, I guess.
I don't know where you live but not here in Georgia. You have to pay for EVERYTHING here even if the school sends your kid there. The schools here require shots and my sis in law, who works at a hotel making $10 an hour with 3 kids had to pay $200 for shots for her kids at the public health clinic here. They don't pay for nothing here even though they require the shots and school attendance is mandatory.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't know where you live but not here in Georgia. You have to pay for EVERYTHING here even if the school sends your kid there. The schools here require shots and my sis in law, who works at a hotel making $10 an hour with 3 kids had to pay $200 for shots for her kids at the public health clinic here. They don't pay for nothing here even though they require the shots and school attendance is mandatory.
Here in Texas they have free shot days before school starts sponsored and held at the schools. I have volunteered there and talk about overflowing !
Starts at 8am and goes til 6pm and the school cafeteria is full of families the entire time.

Most families were Hispanic but not all. I was surprised though that there are lots of people that have 4-5-6 kids. Having that many kids is expensive. The norm in most middle, upper-middle families is 2.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Sure they do -- look up "Emergency Medicaid". That's what pays for them when they come to the hospital in labor or for any kind of condition.
Well, I learned something new today. However, you are incorrect about "any condition".

https://hcpf.cdhs.state.co.us/HCPF/refmat/al010312.asp

For non-qualified immigrants receiving Medicaid emergency only benefits, the following medical conditions will be covered:

An emergency medical condition is a medical condition (including labor and delivery) which manifests itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in:

a) placing the patient's health in serious jeopardy,

b) serious impairment of bodily function, or

c) serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part.

Plus more.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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You really need to do more research.

JAMA -- Trends in Emergency Medicaid Expenditures for Recent and Undocumented Immigrants, March 14, 2007, DuBard and Massing 297 (10): 1085

A total of 48 391 individuals received services reimbursed under Emergency Medicaid during the 4-year period of this study. The patient population was 99% undocumented, 93% Hispanic, 95% female, and 89% in the 18- to 40-year age group.

-- in other words, able bodied illegals coming here to give birth, and once they give birth after all the free prenatal care and maternity care, the regular
Medicaid kicks in.

That's because their babies are US citizens.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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You really need to do more research.

JAMA -- Trends in Emergency Medicaid Expenditures for Recent and Undocumented Immigrants, March 14, 2007, DuBard and Massing 297 (10): 1085

A total of 48 391 individuals received services reimbursed under Emergency Medicaid during the 4-year period of this study. The patient population was 99% undocumented, 93% Hispanic, 95% female, and 89% in the 18- to 40-year age group.

-- in other words, able bodied illegals coming here to give birth, and once they give birth after all the free prenatal care and maternity care, the regular
Medicaid kicks in.
Emergency care is available to anyone, including illegals. Non-emergency care is not available to illegals. The children of illegals who are born here are US citizens - hence, they get emergency and non-emergency care. Does that clear up your confusion?
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Emergency care is available to anyone, including illegals. Non-emergency care is not available to illegals. The children of illegals who are born here are US citizens - hence, they get emergency and non-emergency care. Does that clear up your confusion?
The amazing thing is that the children of Illegals who are born here can get care from day one but children of LEGAL immigrants that come here LEGALLY cannot get care. Not even vaccinations.
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Yes they do receive health care, not insurance, but health care. No hospital can refuse health-care to anyone legal or illegal. The government pays for those that can't pay, legal and/or illegal. The myth that xx_ million people don't have health-care is a myth. They don't have heath insurance. I wish people would just quit perpetuated that myth for political reasons.
No hospital cannot refuse EMERGENCY health care to anyone.

The Government DOES NOT pay for these visits, the hospital bills the patient. The hospital ultimately ends up paying for it if the patient does not pay their bill.

If you have cancer you can't go to the ER for your Chemo for free.
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