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Old 06-27-2009, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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Did I hear this right???? Early morning news reported that 12 million illegals will receive the health care if it passes ????? Freekin incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Did I hear this right???? Early morning news reported that 12 million illegals will receive the health care if it passes ????? Freekin incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a LIE. They do not recieve care now. They do not get SCHIP for their kids nor do they qualify for Medicare at 65. In fact, many LEGAL immigrants do NOT get these benefits. To get SCHIP you have to be in the country for a minimum of 5 years and to get Medicare, you have to have WORKED in the country for 10 years. So the news LIED! Quit watching Faux News Channel!
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:00 AM
 
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That is a LIE. They do not recieve care now. They do not get SCHIP for their kids nor do they qualify for Medicare at 65. In fact, many LEGAL immigrants do NOT get these benefits. To get SCHIP you have to be in the country for a minimum of 5 years and to get Medicare, you have to have WORKED in the country for 10 years. So the news LIED! Quit watching Faux News Channel!
Yes illegals receive free care now...why do you thinks many States have been bankrupted by them? As far as a lie....we shall see.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The rumblings are out there though so do keep an eye on how this progresses.
LaRaza wants less strict requirements on this health bill and a "public" option to make it easier on immigrants.
Obama has also voiced some acceptance of a "public" option but didn't mention immigrants.

Now why a "public" option and why the cry for less strict requirements ?
I can only think of "loophole" where the illegals could get into this system.

But there is nothing on paper regarding this..let's hope there isn't a 3:00AM "amendment" to the final health bill. But I do think it's something to keep track of as this proposal works it's way to paper.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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Yes illegals receive free care now...why do you thinks many States have been bankrupted by them? As far as a lie....we shall see.
They receive care only for emergencies.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:15 AM
 
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They receive care only for emergencies.
Don't forget childbirth.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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That is a LIE. They do not recieve care now. They do not get SCHIP for their kids nor do they qualify for Medicare at 65. In fact, many LEGAL immigrants do NOT get these benefits. To get SCHIP you have to be in the country for a minimum of 5 years and to get Medicare, you have to have WORKED in the country for 10 years. So the news LIED! Quit watching Faux News Channel!
Yes they do receive health care, not insurance, but health care. No hospital can refuse health-care to anyone legal or illegal. The government pays for those that can't pay, legal and/or illegal. The myth that xx_ million people don't have health-care is a myth. They don't have heath insurance. I wish people would just quit perpetuated that myth for political reasons.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Yes they do receive health care, not insurance, but health care. No hospital can refuse health-care to anyone legal or illegal. The government pays for those that can't pay, legal and/or illegal. The myth that xx_ million people don't have health-care is a myth. They don't have heath insurance. I wish people would just quit perpetuated that myth for political reasons.
That is untrue. If you do not have insurance, the hospital is going to patch you up and send you out the door. You are not going to get treatment except for emergency treatment. No chemo, no cancer treatment, no Diabetis treatment, no kidney dialysis or transplant. They send you home to DIE!
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Don't forget childbirth.
That is sort of an emergency isn't it?
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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Yes they do receive health care, not insurance, but health care. No hospital can refuse health-care to anyone legal or illegal. The government pays for those that can't pay, legal and/or illegal. The myth that xx_ million people don't have health-care is a myth. They don't have heath insurance. I wish people would just quit perpetuated that myth for political reasons.

If a person (legal or illegal) who doesn't have insurance walks into an emergency room due to a heart attack, yes the hospital will take care of that person. The government doesn't foot the bill. The person is on the hook for the bill. How many of them will actually pay the bill? My experience is that about 90% will pay the bill, after negotiating the rate down with the hospital.
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