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Old 06-29-2009, 05:10 AM
 
Location: DC area
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I don't understand what you're saying in this post - one of the benefits to shopping in bulk is so that you don't have to go to the store every week. And in general, I typically buy the same items - I don't know of anyone who buys something different every time they go to the store. I would think something as common as cereal would be a staple in just about any household that has children Can you explain what this means "But if you can shift what you buy each week, then you can take advantage of the way grocery stores do their pricing" the only conclusion I could get is when the grocery store has a sale - like buy one get one free.
That is basically what (s)he's talking about, yes. Costco has decent savings if you're someone that simply buys without looking at sales or using coupons.

If however, you do both, and if you play the grocery game, you can still stock up to the point of it being bulk and save a lot of money doing so. You do have to change the way you shop though. The shopping you do then runs in 12 week cycles rather than what you need, whenever, because that is how the sales and coupons run - With the exception of meats and produce mind you, though meats on sale also run on a cycle. I subscribe to the grocery game site because the site makes my life easier. When I'm playing the game hard, my average bill for a cart of groceries averages between 25-50 dollars. My bill is actually on the higher side for those playing the game because I have to buy my SO a ton of fresh fruit every week which always adds a good chunk to the bill.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Great to see that you know what other people should do with their diet and time.

A friend just gave me the book Stuff White People Like.
Entry No. 62 is: Knowing What's Best for Poor People.
Perhaps you could stop by a bookstore and take a gander.

Similar to how you libs think you know how people should spend their money? Or how much they should make?
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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Great to see that you know what other people should do with their diet and time.

A friend just gave me the book Stuff White People Like.
Entry No. 62 is: Knowing What's Best for Poor People.
Perhaps you could stop by a bookstore and take a gander.
Considering we are paying for their food, I think it is fair to criticize them for wasting our money on the expensive brands. I know in your socialist paradise, people are free to receive as many food stamps as they want without any consequence, but in reality, someone is paying for it.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Generally the poor are not well educated and do not understand pricing models etc.
That's another blanket statement I won't even try to rebuttal.


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I get sick of eating the same stuff anyways.
I probably only grocery shop about 1 every 2 -3 months and we never eat the same stuff all the time. That's what freezers are for - I'll buy a pack of chicken breasts but that doesn't mean we have to eat chicken breasts every day...I don't see how that would even be a factor unless you have a really tiny kitchen and can only fit about a weeks worth of food. If I was to post a picture of my pantry/freezer people would think I have a family of 6 or 7

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Right, you base your meals around the grocery store sales (the front page sales are usually rather cheap). I use generics for any base supplies I need (flour, butter, etc).
No I base my meals around what we like to eat (and what I know how to cook). We're pretty much Super Wal-mart shoppers so a lot of our stuff is Great Value or Archer Farms when we go to Target...even with generic brands I typically get a better unit price at Sam's. Especially on soft lines.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: PA
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I use to go shopping at a grocery store in the poorer part of town and noticed that a lot of people using food stamps made stupid purchases. Anyhow, yesterday I was at the grocery store and used an automated check and the person's receipt before mine got stuck to mine and did not realize it until I looked at home.

Regardless, the total was for $150 and the type of purchases were pretty ridiculous. For example they spent $10 on premium fruit juice (two 1/2 gallon containers), $12 on two packs of premium hot dogs, expensive snack foods, etc. Around $100 of it was spent very wastefully, the other $50 was spent on meats and such that were on sale. Anyhow, for the same money I could easily get double the food.

Anyhow, why have food stamps when the people so wastefully spend them? They are essentially store gift cards with some restricts. I don't think anybody should starve in an advanced country like the US, but at the same time why are tax payers forking out money so low-income folks can buy foods that many of don't buy because of the high costs?

I dont care how they spend the money. My question would be why do we have this program in the first place. If you often look at your fellow human beings and have feelings of anger I don't blame you. While you struggle to meet your food bill, or have to choose wisely on keeping the cost down they just use your tax dollars to do whatever they want. It is natural for you to FEEL cheated and its ok to have anger but not hate. Because there is a difference between anger and hate.
Anger has purpose with reason and intellectual concepts, hate is just stupid.
Put the anger where it belongs which should be at your government for creating such a stupid program to begin with.
Once the people again have to pay for food with real money might understand why the other half was very angry in the first place.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Southern NC
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I dont care how they spend the money. My question would be why do we have this program in the first place. If you often look at your fellow human beings and have feelings of anger I don't blame you. While you struggle to meet your food bill, or have to choose wisely on keeping the cost down they just use your tax dollars to do whatever they want. It is natural for you to FEEL cheated and its ok to have anger but not hate. Because there is a difference between anger and hate.
Anger has purpose with reason and intellectual concepts, hate is just stupid.
Put the anger where it belongs which should be at your government for creating such a stupid program to begin with.
Once the people again have to pay for food with real money might understand why the other half was very angry in the first place.
So does that mean you support the idea of "the strongest will survive?"
There would be alot of deaths due to starvation without the FS program...there are people who truely rely on it for all their food.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Besides in this country, poor people tend to not know much. They tend to not understand that having many babies without a husband is not the way to get ahead, they tend to think dropping out of school is a smart thing to do, they tend to think they should have everything the wealthy have but not be required to work.
So you know each and every poor person in this country? You know every thought in their head, and know they ALL think like that?

Well, kiddo; you missed a few, like one of my best friends.

He's on food stamps and medical card (medicaid, and of course SSI for disability), and has been in a wheelchair since he was 13yrs old. Oh, did I forget to mention, he holds 2 (yes count them two!) masters degrees in computer related fields. He can NOT find a job. He can't work in food or medical fields, cause of the contamination risks with him touching his wheels to move; he can't work in a factory, since OSHA won't allow it due to their guidelines; and office settings? Good luck, since most are not accessible (in this area anyway), and he doesn't fit their company "look".

So before you paint ALL people in to a corner, stop and think where would YOU be if something like that had happened to you.

Yes, some people on state aid ARE like you mention; but not all, and probably (IMO anyway) most aren't. this is just another clear case, of the few bad apples getting the most attention, while the ones that aren't abusive to the system have to be ridiculed for nothing.
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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When the food stamp money runs out, it runs out. If they buy too much expensive stuff, the money is gone sooner. I have been a public health nurse, and I worked with a lot of teen moms on Public Assistance. What I saw then was moms buying a lot of prepared food, e.g. macaroni and cheese in a jar, junk like that rather than expensive foods that needed some preparation. The old saw that people are buying steaks with food stamps is pretty unusual, IMO.

Exactly!

I won't lie, I have been on medical card and food stamps before. We used those programs for 6 months, after my husband was laid off from work (before the military), and during that time I spent 2 months in the hospital (pneumonia, kidney failure, and sepsis) and lost my job as well.

I was on bed rest for 3 more months (2 of it with oxygen) after being home, and he had to take care of me and the kiddo, till I was able to do it myself.

So we needed a bit of help, as soon as we got back on our feet, we got off those programs.


To be fair though, we did buy a lot of lean meats (some steaks) when we had FS. But that is the type of food we eat anyway. We bought, fresh veggies, eggs, oatmeal (no instant), whole grain bread, brown rice, steak, lean beef, chicken, fish, and other healthy foods. We don't eat junk food. So I guess for the record, you guys can say you finally met someone that used FS to buy a steak, lol!

That was 4 1/2 yrs ago, mind you. We had a good chunk of money saved for a rainy day, but even that wasn't enough. (most of it went to medical bills, and a home nurse for the 1st week) So we had no choice, either apply for those programs to get a bit of help, or starve and have our child go without.


I know not all people that receive assistance are like us, but not all people are bad either. Some just have had a bad deal and need a hand up.
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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They had her so upset she ran out of the store leaving her groceries behind . A young man came in and said 'Well my sister just ran out of the store and she left her groceries here . Im sorry she did that . You see he said to the cashier . Her brother died in Iraq a few months ago and she took on his children and she is only 21 yrs old . Turns out he goes to the same church she went to and she took on all three of her brothers children . their mom was killed in a car accident the yr before . Those same ppl that had said those evil things about her started giving her groceries and loading them in her cart .

Phonelady, you got me BAWLING over here.

One of the girls that lived next to us in BH lost her brother the year before, and took his daughter into their home too. The worst part about it was that he hubby didn't come home either. I swear our neighborhood raised every penny we could, and she was able to get a nicer mini van 9for the kids) and a house (almost all paid for), cause they were kicking her off base with those babies, since he hubby was gone.

that was totally OT, but your story reminded me of her, and I hope she's doing well today.
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:25 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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I've never lived in those states, but what is meant by "Child support" here? Is it some sort of government supplied child support? Why would the government be paying the support instead of the person themselves?

I suppose it could be cases where wages are being garnished or something of that nature.
Basically, the non custodial parent pays the state the CS for their child(ren), then they state pays the custodial parent their CS monthly with a debit card.
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