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Old 06-28-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Same old whine since the elections in Iran, if he does nothing he is bad, if he were to invade he would be bad. Iran and it's government is the issue for the People of Iran, not ours.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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I'm sitting here shaking my head.
There seems to be no consistency in this administration.
It's a coin toss to determine Obama's position on anything anymore.
I think the consistency is there -- he's for the dictators. When it comes to people fighting for their freedom, he sides with the dictator.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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Ok I get that. But then why the about face, total 360 degree opposite with Honduras ?

At least it wasn't covert; it was right out in the open via the State Department rather than a CIA ops.

Maybe something more to this than meets the eye regarding our foreign policy.
I'm sure there is much more thats involved with our decision making in regards to foreign policy than the general public is ever exposed to.

As far as Honduras goes, I have not been following that issue much so I can't really draw an opinion. I'll have to read up on it
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Obama concerned over expulsion of Honduran leader - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/06/28/2009-06-28T153147Z_01_N28330719_RTRIDST_0_HONDURAS-PRESIDENT-OBAMA-URGENT.html - broken link)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama expressed deep concern on Sunday at the Honduran military's arrest and expulsion of President Manuel Zelaya from the country.

"Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference," he said.


As stated previously, Presidnet Zelaya was democratically elected.

Where's the beef?
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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I'm sitting here shaking my head.
There seems to be no consistency in this administration.
It's a coin toss to determine Obama's position on anything anymore.
Where is the inconsistancy regarding the situations in Iran and Hondurans? In both cases Obama is defending basic democratic values; the right to protests in regard to Iran and the right to vote and live in a democratic society in regard to Honduras. Obama has been very inconsistant on alot of issues (Torture, Iraq, issues surrounding the bailout ect..) but this isn't one of them.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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"Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference," he said.

As stated previously, Presidnet Zelaya was democratically elected.

Where's the beef?
Why, of course. Stolen elections and rigged counting along with beatings and murders of those voters who want to know what happened to their vote shouldn't be bothered with, right?

Or are you one of those insinuating that the election in Iran was above board?

But the real point is the obama WH was extremely quick to make a very strong statement in support of restoring the despot, while his silence as Iranians were dying the streets was deafening. Only from criticism, at home and abroad regarding his weak and timid statement forced him to somewhat reverse himself.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why, of course. Stolen elections and rigged counting along with beatings and murders of those voters who want to know what happened to their vote shouldn't be bothered with, right?

Or are you one of those insinuating that the election in Iran was above board?

But the real point is the obama WH was extremely quick to make a very strong statement in support of restoring the despot, while his silence as Iranians were dying the streets was deafening. Only from criticism, at home and abroad regarding his weak and timid statement forced him to somewhat reverse himself.
The results of the Iran elections are still in dispute. There is no dispute that Zelaya was democratically elected.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The results of the Iran elections are still in dispute.
Only those sympathetic to the regime are disputing the election, you would be one of those I guess.

There can be little doubt that election was rigged. Only those who want to defend obama at all costs would think that was a fair and free election.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:34 PM
 
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Only those sympathetic to the regime are disputing the election, you would be one of those I guess.

There can be little doubt that election was rigged. Only those who want to defend obama at all costs would think that was a fair and free election.
I repeat, the results are in disupte. Meaning that just who got how many votes is still in dispute, despite what you want to believe.

I'm getting more than a little tired of your snide insinuations.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I repeat, the results are in disupte. Meaning that just who got how many votes is still in dispute, despite what you want to believe.
Now, just ask yourself; Do you think there is any chance at all of those results changing? You just keep waiting for the "official" results - I'm sure you'll believe it hook, line and sinker. There was nothing democratic, fair or free about that election and everybody other than obama's toadies realize it.
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