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Old 06-29-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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My friend knew & loved her fiancee of 7 years. Guess what? They broke up because he was cheating on her.
I guess he did not know her very well.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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Maybe being in a monogamous relationship and rejecting an HIV test could be compared to getting married without a prenuptial agreement.
Not really.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Condoms break. People make mistakes. Unless you're suggesting that everybody stop having sex (and that's completely unrealistic), it's not 100% preventable.

Why is this unrealistic? Because society is telling us it's unrealistic? By the way, I'm not advocating for total abstinance as the rates of AIDS transmission is pretty much zero in monogamous relationships. It's multiple sex partners and certain types of sexual behaviors that lead to AIDS transmission. Also, intravenous drug use is also a common cause as well.

Is there such a thing as a necessary epidemic?

And although some do ignore the risks and have unsafe sex, others do not. Are you suggesting that people who contract HIV should be scorned and left to die? Or that nothing should be done to try to prevent people from passing the disease on to others?

Are you suggesting that HIV positive folks should continue to have sex as long as they use a condom? Talk about denial! Condoms can and DO break. I just pray that HIV positive folks would at the very least inform their partners before subjecting them to the risks of contracting AIDS.

Yes. Everybody should know their HIV status. You want to prevent further transmission, don't you? If someone is HIV-positive, I think it's a good thing for that individual to know it.
I agree about getting AIDS testing if you are among those at risk for contracting AIDS. Folks who are in monogamous relationships where they have only had one sexual partner and have not engaged in certain sexual acts as well as those who abstain from intravenous drug use do not really need to be tested.

My responses in bold.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I guess he did not know her very well.
Oh they knew each other alright, inside & out. Oh I get what you're doing here: you're assuming that because my friend's fiancee cheated on her, they didn't know each other as well as you & your wife, who you claim do not cheat, do. Well, that's a very absurd claim indeed.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Imagine how it would feel to be married for many years, and then suddenly start having HIV symptoms, only to find out that your spouse gave it to you when he or she was having an affair seven years ago. Wouldn't it have been better to know that you were HIV-positive back then? But no, you believed you were in a monogamous relationship, and that "clean people" didn't get infected with HIV. You could have started taking medications early to slow down the disease, but now it's too late.

That would be tragic.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Yes we know that even the simplest of slogan can't get through the thick skull of an idiot. I know my wife inside and out and her the same. Sad you believe that every person cheats. Well they don't. I did not meet my wife in a sewer.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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You think you live in a monogamous relationship. No one can be 100% sure of that, and that's how people become infected and don't realize it.
Yeah I can see it now ...

"Come on honey, let's go get tested for HIV. Although I trust you and all, I'm just being realistic as there may be a possibility that you may have cheated on me and I may have cheated on you"

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Old 06-29-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Yeah I can see it now ...

"Come on honey, let's go get tested for HIV. Although I trust you and all, I'm just being realistic as there may be a possibility that you may have cheated on me and I may have cheated on you"

If no one has cheated, they have nothing to worry about, do they? I actually found it to be a bonding experience going w/my ex together to get one.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Expecting everyone to abstain from unprotected sex and intravenous drug use is completely unrealistic.
And thus, AIDS will always be a problem until people collectively decide to abstain from risky behaviors. Let's stop funding AIDS research and let's focus on cancer research instead. I, as a taxpayer, am sick of my dollars being used to research the cure for something when we can eradicate HIV/AIDS simply by abstaining from risky behaviors.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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And thus, AIDS will always be a problem until people collectively decide to abstain from risky behaviors. Let's stop funding AIDS research and let's focus on cancer research instead. I, as a taxpayer, am sick of my dollars being used to research the cure for something when we can eradicate HIV/AIDS simply by abstaining from risky behaviors.
I wonder what would happen if someone close to you were to get aids...
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