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Old 06-29-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Why is this unrealistic? Because society is telling us it's unrealistic?
Yes, society tells us this, and any sociologist or epidemiologist will tell you that it's unrealistic to expect that everybody can and will abstain from unprotected sex and intravenous drug use. People aren't perfect.

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It's multiple sex partners and certain types of sexual behaviors that lead to AIDS transmission.
Nope. One act of heterosexual, missionary-position sex with an infected person can lead to transmission. A thousand acts of sex with people who are not infected can never lead to transmission.

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Are you suggesting that HIV positive folks should continue to have sex as long as they use a condom?
Nope. I never said that.

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I agree about getting AIDS testing if you are among those at risk for contracting AIDS.
That would include anyone who has sexual intercourse.

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Folks who are in monogamous relationships where they have only had one sexual partner and have not engaged in certain sexual acts as well as those who abstain from intravenous drug use do not really need to be tested.
I guess we have different ideas about who should be tested. I think it's foolish to not get tested at all. It's mostly fear, embarrassment, and shameful feelings about sex that keep a lot of people from getting tested.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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I have a newflash..Obama has made it mandatory that as part of a routine physical..your Dr now will test for AIDS without you asking for it. I heard this a couple of months ago and am not sure what part of what bill or something he crammed thru the Congress..but yes...it will now be mandatory. Nice to slowly but surely have all of your rights taken away from you..isn't it??
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Yeah I can see it now ...

"Come on honey, let's go get tested for HIV. Although I trust you and all, I'm just being realistic as there may be a possibility that you may have cheated on me and I may have cheated on you"

I guess if someone wants to live blindly, he or she has a right to do so.

Your premise is sort of silly, though. No one has to know that you're getting tested. You can get tested anonymously for free in most places, or you can order your own testing kit on the internet.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I have a newflash..Obama has made it mandatory that as part of a routine physical..your Dr now will test for AIDS without you asking for it. I heard this a couple of months ago and am not sure what part of what bill or something he crammed thru the Congress..but yes...it will now be mandatory. Nice to slowly but surely have all of your rights taken away from you..isn't it??
You are full of crap. You can't really be that misinformed. "I heard this a couple of months ago". Not happening.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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If no one has cheated, they have nothing to worry about, do they? I actually found it to be a bonding experience going w/my ex together to get one.
Years ago, I went with a female co-worker of mine. I didn't get tested, but she wanted to do it without her boyfriend knowing about it, and she didn't want to go to the county clinic alone. Of the two years she and I worked together, that's the day that stands out for me as the best - oh - actually, even better was the day that we went to get her result (which was negative).
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I have a newflash..Obama has made it mandatory that as part of a routine physical..your Dr now will test for AIDS without you asking for it. I heard this a couple of months ago and am not sure what part of what bill or something he crammed thru the Congress..but yes...it will now be mandatory. Nice to slowly but surely have all of your rights taken away from you..isn't it??
A. provide evidence & B. I have absolutely no qualms about this if it were true
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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And thus, AIDS will always be a problem until people collectively decide to abstain from risky behaviors.
Such denial of reality. Honestly, it's foolish.

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Let's stop funding AIDS research and let's focus on cancer research instead. I, as a taxpayer, am sick of my dollars being used to research the cure for something when we can eradicate HIV/AIDS simply by abstaining from risky behaviors.
Yeah, well, I'm sick of hearing people complaining about "their tax dollars" being used to fund research to cure diseases - especially when a lot of these same people had little or no problem with the trillion dollars spent in Iraq. Like it or not, when it comes to health - especially in terms of communicable diseases, we are all connected.

And to suggest that it's "simple" to get everybody in America (and the world) to abstain from what you define as risky behaviors is completely unrealistic.

Are there any other diseases for which you want to stop funding, or is it just HIV/AIDS?
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Originally Posted by wdavid002 View Post
I have a newflash..Obama has made it mandatory that as part of a routine physical..your Dr now will test for AIDS without you asking for it. I heard this a couple of months ago and am not sure what part of what bill or something he crammed thru the Congress..but yes...it will now be mandatory.
Provide evidence, please.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I am 100% and she's the same. We believe in keeping our house clean.
I'm sure that's what Ted Haggart's wife thought too.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I'm sure that's what Ted Haggart's wife thought too.
And Larry Craig's wife, David Vitter's wife, Elliot Spitzer's wife, and John Edwards's wife.
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