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Old 06-29-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Here is the police report again.
Fort Worth Police Statement Concerning "Rainbow Lounge" Raid - KDAF

Lets go through it. Red is my comments


On Thursday evening, June 6, 2009, a TABC Agent entered into NPD2 and teamed up with a patrol officer in order to conduct alcoholic beverage code inspections of area clubs. While they were out, they performed these inspections into the Friday morning hours. At approximately 10:00 p.m., Thursday evening, they stopped by the Rainbow Lounge located at 651 S. Jennings in anticipation of conducting an inspection as this club is newly opened and has not received an inspection before this date. While waiting on the supervisor to arrive, which is standard operating procedure, the owner of the Rainbow Lounge approached the officers asked if there was a problem. The TABC agent explained they were waiting on a patrol supervisor to make the scene before conducting an inspection of his establishment. An inspection at the Rainbow Lounge was not conducted on this date (Friday). Other locations, however, were inspected as a continuing effort to educate and enforce over serving alcohol to intoxicated individuals.


So On Thursday TABC showed up to inspect it and talked to the owner and did not inspect it . it had never bene checked before since it


On Saturday morning, June 27, 2009, a person identifying himself as the owner of the Rainbow Lounge called the local police station and spoke with a supervisor to ascertain if there was a problem at the Rainbow Lounge. At approximately 3:30 p.m., a Fort Worth Police sergeant spoke with the owner of the Rainbow Lounge and explained they were conducting alcoholic beverage code inspections in the area. The owner advised the sergeant officers were welcome anytime to conduct an inspection of his establishment. The sergeant advised the owner of the Rainbow Lounge that officers would return to the area this evening to continue inspections and would inspect his establishment.

Saturday the owner called in and was told there was no problem but an inspection woudl happen that evening


On Sunday morning, June 28, 2009, at 12:30 a.m., six (6) Fort Worth Police Officers, two (2) TABC agents and a supervisor conducted inspections at 160 W Rosedale (Rosedale Saloon and Cowboy Palace). This inspection resulted in nine (9) arrests. Once the inspection was completed at these locations, officers proceeded to the Rainbow Lounge.


That Morning the TABC arrested 9 other s a straight bar for PI before they ever showed up to the gay bar. This same team had made 9 arrests at a straight bar before ever going to a gay bar. Check th number 6 police officers two TABC.

Officers arrived at the Rainbow Lounge to conduct the scheduled inspection. Some officers remained outside while some entered the club. While walking through the Rainbow Lounge, an extremely intoxicated patron made sexually explicit movements toward the police supervisor. This individual was arrested for public intoxication. Another

The first one was arrested for PI .


Another intoxicated individual also made sexually explicit movements towards another officer and he was arrested for public intoxication. A third individual inside the lounge assaulted the TABC agent by grabbing the TABC agent's groin. He was escorted outside and arrested for public intoxication.
So far 3 arrests for PI

The decision was made to release him to paramedics due to his extreme intoxicated state as he was repeatedly vomiting. While dealing with this person, another officer requested assistance from inside the club as he had an intoxicated individual that was resisting arrest. This person was placed on the ground in an effort to control and apprehend. A total of seven (7) arrests were made from the Rainbow Lounge during this inspection. The total arrest count for the entire evening totaled 16.

The one taken outside needed meidical aide was transported for alchol poisen Total of 7 arrests at the gat bar 9 arrests at the straight bar.

Alcohol beverage code inspections are conducted frequently at establishments located within the city limits of Fort Worth. These are conducted in order to ensure a safe environment for all. A thorough internal investigation into the allegations made is being conducted as all allegations against officers are investigated.

So 9 arrests at the straight bar, 7 arrests at he gay bar. Seems to me they were arresting drunks legally without discriminating. As I have said a drunk is a drunk gay or straight
Thanks for the long detailed post directed to my post. However, as you'll see in my post, I wondered why 9 people were needed to carry out a routine inspection of the bar. That question still hasn't been answered.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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[quote=nate14ri;9521642]I've been in gay bars where men walk in on a regular basis wearing full on police uniforms, fireman gear, army gear ect. Perhaps the bar patrons were confused... (as it was pointed out only 3 cops walked in the bar) And, yes sometimes I even get confused, its not hard to get an authentic uniform.

However, If the cops did used excessive force because they were being hit on by bar patrons...I think the cops should have known that was a possibility from the beginning and should have dealt with that accordingly. And by accordingly I mean non-violently.
Here in Boston and in Providence, the cops and gays have built up a mutual respect. The gay bars are very good about not over-serving and calling cabs for drunks, while cops block off streets for block parties and march in our parades.


9 were arrested for PI at a striahg bar that night 7 were arrested for Pi at the gay bar that night. A drunk is a drunk gay or straight
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Thanks for the long detailed post directed to my post. However, as you'll see in my post, I wondered why 9 people were needed to carry out a routine inspection of the bar. That question still hasn't been answered.
The police report shows 6 polices officers and two TABC . TABC ha sno authority to arrest they had to have policeman. I think 3 stayed out side 3 went in not an overpowering number
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Denver
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9 were arrested for PI at a striahg bar that night 7 were arrested for Pi at the gay bar that night. A drunk is a drunk gay or straight
They shouldn't have raided ("checked", if that's what you want to call it) any of the 3 bars in this manner. It's police intimidation and abuse of authority.

What's the next thing we're going to read about - gangs of 9 armed Fort Worth cops going door-to-door doing "house checks" to make sure no illegal activity is going on?
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Thanks for the long detailed post directed to my post. However, as you'll see in my post, I wondered why 9 people were needed to carry out a routine inspection of the bar. That question still hasn't been answered.
9 were arrested for the same thing at a straight bar. How many police officers does it take to arrest 9 drunks, I would say 6 is a good number.
7 were arrested at the gay bar.
If we are ever to have equal rights we need to know a gay drunk is treated like a straight drunk that night its seems they were
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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They shouldn't have raided ("checked", if that's what you want to call it) any of the 3 bars in this manner. It's police intimidation and abuse of authority.
According to Texas law they have every right to do so. All Bars in fort worth are checked for this gay or straight. A gay drunk should be treated as a straight drunk.
I have been in local pub when it happesn and billy bobs with 4500 people. If you leave the cops alone they will leave you alone.Only the fools that are really out of it make a scene and I would rather have them arrested ther ethen kill someoen driving. A PI is minor drun driving is big
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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9 were arrested for the same thing at a straight bar. How many police officers does it take to arrest 9 drunks, I would say 6 is a good number.
7 were arrested at the gay bar.
If we are ever to have equal rights we need to know a gay drunk is treated like a straight drunk that night its seems they were
Except that only a Gay person ended up in the hospital with a bleeding brain.

I don't think anybody is arguing that alleged unruly drunks should not be appropriately dealt with, regardless of their sexual orientation. The use of force in this case was most likely due to homophobic attitudes of the officers involved. I am sure we will find out for certain sooner than later.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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They shouldn't have raided ("checked", if that's what you want to call it) any of the 3 bars in this manner. It's police intimidation and abuse of authority.

What's the next thing we're going to read about - gangs of 9 armed Fort Worth cops going door-to-door doing "house checks" to make sure no illegal activity is going on?
The checks are quite common here. As i posted it was not 9. 6 officers, two TABC. TABC can not arrest, they are there to cite the bar.6 officers to take down 9 drunks is not unreasonable.
9 straight drunks arrestees 7 gay drunks. A drunk is a drunk
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Except that only a Gay person ended up in the hospital with a bleeding brain.

I don't think anybody is arguing that alleged unruly drunks should not be apprpriately dealt with, regardless of their sexual orientation.
No he was sent to the hospital because they would not vomiting a sign alchol poison. As the report states. A drunk is a drunk gay or straight
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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The checks are quite common here. As i posted it was not 9. 6 officers, two TABC. TABC can not arrest, they are there to cite the bar.6 officers to take down 9 drunks is not unreasonable.
9 straight drunks arrestees 7 gay drunks. A drunk is a drunk
Wow. For a gay person, you sure do seem to keep conveniently forgetting to mention that one of the 16 arrested ended up in a hospital with a bleeding brain.

A drunk may indeed be a drunk, but, excessive police brutality is unacceptable in any situation. In this case, it appears to be a hate-based crime against homosexuals.
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