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fine, then you have no problem for people to be brought in that can refute global warming/climate change, have no problem to be taught about other religions bein taught including christianity and jesus, no problem for children to be taught by teachers that homosexuality is wrong and should be avoided.
after all, if 1 side of the equation is to be taught, then the other side should also be taught, and that just is not happening these days. only 1 side of the problem is being taught and not the other side.
They don't teach that one is right and one is wrong.
You learn about SCIENCE in SCIENCE class. The Ozone layer has a hole.
You learn about different Religions in Global Studies. Islam teaches this, Christianity teaches this, Hinduism teaches this.
You do not learn that Homosexuality is right or wrong, and I have never experienced any "class" teaching about Homosexuality.
You want to give opinions in school rather than just teaching facts.
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The fact that we are not ranked #1 out of the world does not mean that our children do not receive an appropriate education. Is it perfect? No. In the same way homeschooling is not always perfect.
The fact that we are ranked pretty low compared to the rest of the world should tell you that our public education system is less than adequate. Even if the public schools are "adequate", most parents want more for their child than just adequacy. Yes, there are some excellent public school districts and it seems that you have had a really positive experience in school. This does not negate the fact that in many places, our public school system is failing our children and there's too much union politics that is acting as a barrier to reforms. I'm glad to see that you are open minded enough to see that home schooling can be beneficial when done properly. The sad thing is that many proponents of the public school system need to take off the rosey colored glasses and take a good hard look at what our schools have become: Institutions of mediocre. Until they do, we will never see real reforms as many folks are content with just adequacy.
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fine, then you have no problem for people to be brought in that can refute global warming/climate change, have no problem to be taught about other religions bein taught including christianity and jesus, no problem for children to be taught by teachers that homosexuality is wrong and should be avoided.
after all, if 1 side of the equation is to be taught, then the other side should also be taught, and that just is not happening these days. only 1 side of the problem is being taught and not the other side.
And how do we expect our children to make informed choices for themselves and to critically analyze all sides of an argument if they are only being exposed to one side of the equation?
The father wants to pull his child out of class every single time he thinks they could possibly, vaguely teach his child something that may violate his religious beliefs.
He should homeschool his child or send them to religious schools.
And how do we expect our children to make informed choices for themselves and to critically analyze all sides of an argument if they are only being exposed to one side of the equation?
In Science class, we were taught that there was a hole in the ozone layer. Do you dispute that there is a hole in the ozone layer?
In Global Studies, we simply learned Religions of the World and what people follow. What exactly else should the be teaching us other than fact? Christians worship Jesus. Muslims worship Allah. Hindus worship Vishnu. There is no one is better than the other.
The fact that we are not ranked #1 out of the world does not mean that our children do not receive an appropriate education. Is it perfect? No. In the same way homeschooling is not always perfect.
Hey I wolud settle for #10 we are 18 out of 24. How can you defend that? Why would you defend that?
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In Science class, we were taught that there was a hole in the ozone layer. Do you dispute that there is a hole in the ozone layer?
In Global Studies, we simply learned Religions of the World and what people follow. What exactly else should the be teaching us other than fact? Christians worship Jesus. Muslims worship Allah. Hindus worship Vishnu. There is no one is better than the other.
I can live with a comparative religions type course as long as children are not being forced to engage in religious practices that contradicts their beliefs. Some religious studies classes have required students to partake in Islamic rituals and that is just plain wrong unless the children are Muslim to begin with. As for science, as long as children are being taughts facts as facts and theories as theories. My beef is that many theories that haven't been proven are being pushed as fact in the public schools.
As I have said - the system needs work. Besides that - we are not churning out illiterate messes as posters have implied in this thread. We are not achieving at the top of our game.
That does not necessarily mean that homeschooling is always the answer, and that homeschoolers are always going to surpass children educated in public school.
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