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Old 07-01-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Coup. One part of a government removing from political power another part of the government. That's what a coup is.

And while the "interim" President and his cohorts were ostensibly protecting their Constitution, it still doesn't answer the question of why? With virtually no support from the other branches of government, how did Zelaya pose a credible threat to the Constitution? A non-binding referendum? Why did they have to stage a coup, why not wait a few months until his Presidency expired? Why the urgency?
So if obama bin laden makes himself dictator or works to do so, and Congress and the SCOTUS declare it illegal and remove him, will you call that a coup as well?
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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Well then, it wasn't a coup by your definition.

It was more than just one part of government that removed him. It was the Supreme Court, the congress and the military working in concert.

Still a coup. By my definition.

Even Fox News is calling it a coup. Why is it so important to some of you that this not be called a coup? Do you think that the interim government is more legitimate because you call it something else? Why, sanrene, did they have to depose this President now, instead of waiting a few months? What made it so urgent?
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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So if obama bin laden makes himself dictator or works to do so, and Congress and the SCOTUS declare it illegal and remove him, will you call that a coup as well?

Yes, if the military breaks into the White House in the middle of the night, takes him from the White House at gunpoint and flies him out of the country, then yes, it's a coup.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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Yes, if the military breaks into the White House in the middle of the night, takes him from the White House at gunpoint and flies him out of the country, then yes, it's a coup.
It's nice to see how blatantly supportive of tyranny the left has become. No hiding your true agenda.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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Still a coup. By my definition.

Even Fox News is calling it a coup. Why is it so important to some of you that this not be called a coup?
Because Rush Limbaugh said it wasn't a coup, Rush wouldn't lie to them would he?
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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Are you really serious here? Come one, why would a person who wants to be a dictator organize a referendum to make him one if he wasn't serious about doing so?
What does it matter if he doesn't have the power to enforce it? And clearly, he didn't have the power. So it doesn't matter how badly he wanted to serve a second term as President, because he didn't have the power to make it happen, not today and not last week.

And the obvious thing in such a situation is who gains by removing him from power and what do they gain? Because if they don't allow Zelaya back into the country, or arrest him and imprison him, what happens then? Will it surprise you if they postpone the election, because with only four months to go, and all this political turmoil happening now, how will the voters be able to make a thoughtful choice? How can anyone campaign when Zelaya protesters on the streets are being subdued by soldiers? This coup, allowed to stand, will not result in a peaceful, open election in November.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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DRUDGE REPORT 2009
Obama says coup in Honduras is illegal | Reuters



Nice, strong statement from obama - too bad it is once again wrong. Compare and contrast this very quick response to the silence over Iran's elections.

Why does it always seem obama and the dems/libs take the side of dictators, criminals and despots?

The Supreme court ruled that what Zelaya was doing was illegal, so did the congress and the military refused to distribute the ballots. He was trying to pull a Hugo Chavez - and the other branches of government stepped in to prevent a constitutional crisis.



Really? So they have no problem meddling in the affairs of a sovereign country? Why the left must be contorting themselves into unimaginable shapes in order to resolve the dichotomy between the two.

Hot Air Blog Archive Terrific: Chavez accuses U.S. of having a lot to do with Honduras coup




Doesn't it just warm your hearts to see POTUS allign himself with this evil clown? Just one call from Chavez is all it took for obama to comply.
Yes, and it wasn't a coup either. A call came in to Rush's show from an American that is there, and he said that it was completely peaceful and it was not a "coup", as is being reported. As far as my understandig of the situation goes, it wasn't illegal either. Yet Obama wants the dictatorship restored.

Wonderful "President" we have here. This guy is worse than Jimmy Carter.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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Default Zelaya admits to his scheming at the UN today.

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A non-binding referendum?
BS. Zelaya admitted today in front of the UN, “I’m no longer going to hold a constitutional assembly.” This is exactly how he positioned and refered to his non-binding referendum. “And if I’m offered the chance to stay in power, I won’t." No poop. He never could have stayed a third term because it is unconstitutional. How and why did he even have that idea of trying to stay? Because he was trying to. Simple as that. That is why he is exiled. Trying usurp their Constitution.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Yes, and it wasn't a coup either. A call came in to Rush's show from an American that is there, and he said that it was completely peaceful and it was not a "coup", as is being reported. As far as my understandig of the situation goes, it wasn't illegal either. Yet Obama wants the dictatorship restored.

Wonderful "President" we have here. This guy is worse than Jimmy Carter.
Coups can be peacefully accomplished. It was a coup.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:09 PM
 
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It's nice to see how blatantly supportive of tyranny the left has become. No hiding your true agenda.
And you conclude that because???

Because a President that was legally and democratically elected, with just a few months left to serve his term, who has eroded his political support within the government, even though he still has some support among the people, should be removed from office at gunpoint and removed from the country? And you think that was a good thing because????

You think that the people shouldn't have chosen their next President after Zelaya? That imposing a new President without the people's input is not tyrannical because????
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