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Old 07-02-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Please post proof that I am hoping for a dictatorship.....you aren't honest.

"Does everything, uses everything" "we have the power"

Read your own post.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Bush did what all the time? Get lavish uncritical support from the vast majority of the press? I don't think so.

Uh..no, giving access to key members of his staff for money. Every President has done it, but no one more than Bill Clinton.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Please post proof that I am hoping for a dictatorship.....you aren't honest.

You;ve stated it many times.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Pat answer, as usual. Also wrong. Please, point out where this was happening with bush in office.
This was the easy ones to fine.....hundreds more, but you can find them on their own.


President George W Bush lobbyist in ‘cash for access’ row - Times Online

(Can we say bankruptcy law changes and enegry policy - im sure the access in those cases were, they were just nice guys who happened to be involved with those topics)

Very few corporations donate to a candidate or party, and in most cases, both candidates/party's, with out expectations. And they get them.

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Old 07-02-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Uh..no, giving access to key members of his staff for money. Every President has done it, but no one more than Bill Clinton.

As they say...its only been 5 months. Give him time before you judge him like that.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Uh..no, giving access to key members of his staff for money. Every President has done it, but no one more than Bill Clinton.

The key difference here is that a third party, not any third party a news organization. Is hawking access to the Presidents staff. The access given to supporters and lobbyists is way different than this. The 4th estate is supposed to be slepatical and impartial. This is breath taking in its breach of public trust on the part of the Post.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The key difference here is that a third party, not any third party a news organization. Is hawking access to the Presidents staff. The access given to supporters and lobbyists is way different than this. The 4th estate is supposed to be slepatical and impartial. This is breath taking in its breach of public trust on the part of the Post.

They are a corporation that owns a newspaper with the same name. They are involved in the publishing and media business. (Newspapers, Magazines, Broacasting, Education, Publishing, TV/Cable)

No different then NewsCorp. While they have FoxNews, they have other media intrests, that don't effect or have to agree with the content on FoxNews.

No different then any large donor who gets access.(wonder what access Enron got for their 2 million?). We know what Halliburton got from their close association.

(Right or Wrong, this is how it has been done, and is nothing new. So the sudden outrage, is not at all either)

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Old 07-02-2009, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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They are a corporation that owns a newspaper with the same name. They are involved in the publishing and media business. (Newspapers, Magazines, Broacasting, Education, Publishing, TV/Cable)

No different then NewsCorp. While they have FoxNews, they have other media intrests, that don't effect or have to agree with the content on FoxNews.

Well that's not accurate, this isn't an offer by the parent company, this is by the paper with access to their reporters.

"The astonishing offer is detailed in a flier circulated Wednesday to a health care lobbyist, who provided it to a reporter because the lobbyist said he feels it’s a conflict for the [COLOR=#004276! important][COLOR=#004276! important]paper[/color][/color] to charge for access to, as the flier says, its “health care reporting and editorial staff." "
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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You;ve stated it many times.
Where?
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Where?

Ahhh...so now you see what it is you do.

All the sudden you want accusations proven by a quote. If only you felt the need to play by the same rules you demand of everyone else.
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