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Old 07-02-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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Default Red State "Family Values" In Action...They Lead in Divorce, Porn Purchases, Teenage Pregnancy....w/nice graph

The New York Times > Opinion > Image >

Self righteous windbags.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What ever happened to the principle of "correlation =/= causation" so effortlessly flaunted by Liberals on this forum? Most of those states are only red or blue by a few % points, so I fail to see the correlation. Nor do I see 'family values' mentioned anywhere on the graphic.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:07 PM
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If I lived in Alaska, Utah, or Mississippi, i'd subscribe to porn also lol

By the way, Blue State Nevada leads the nation in divorce rates according to your nifty graph.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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Oh my post doesn't prove correlation...but you're welcome to come up with any wild ass guess why white Oklahoma and white Utah (the reddest of the red) score so high.

Nevada? Sin City in the Middle of the Desert...it's an outlier.





Oh what does the term "Family Values" have to do with it?

Republican Party

Since 1980, the Republican Party has used the issue of family values to attract socially conservative voters.[11] While family values remains a rather vague concept, social conservatives usually understand the term to include some combination of the following principles (also referenced in the 2004 Republican Party platform):[12]

Promotion of traditional marriage and opposition to adultery [13][14][15][16]
Opposition to same-sex marriage[12]
Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education[17]
Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"[18]
Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment[19]
Support for healthy choices such as a nutritious diet, medical screenings, and physical activity[12]
Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases[12] while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.
Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.[20][21][22][23][24][25][26]

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Old 07-02-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Yellow Brick Road
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I don't know one Republican that subscribes to all those things you have mentioned above. Only the most right wing of the right wingers believe in all that stuff.

I think EVERYONE (except the perps) agrees that children should be protected from molesters, for example. And the DEMS are pushing "healthy choices" and "preventive health" as much as GOP, so that is a non-issue. And may I ask . . . what is traditional education? Or maybe I should ask - what is "non-traditional" education? I know plenty of people on both sides of the aisle who home school. I also know people on both sides who send their kids to private school. So what the heck does that even mean - "traditional education" ?????
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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The New York Times now that is very laughable..........who would believe them.....
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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When I saw this post I thought about all the guys at work and its usually the real conservative types that get caught looking that extreme porn at work. This makes since to me
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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Sure;we should all fololow the example of clinton ;the kennedy's and hollywood.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Obama's rating keeps slipping in the polls & the NY Times is getting desperate. So sad.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:07 PM
 
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The NYT is wrong, as usual on these things.
For example, it lists Arkansas as a red state, but isnt Clinton from Arkansas? And that was just the first one that stuck out without doing any research..

Just more manipulating of facts to try to prove a point that isnt there..
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