Why is racism against Latinos tolerated? (Canada, deport, Hispanic, companies)

[Scientifical Madness]

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

Correct and Mecklenberg County in NC was at one time 3rd highest in the nation for illegal Mexican immigrants 250,000 estimated in the metro area. I don't care what language they choose to speak, but to insist the schools provide spanish speaking teachers it a bit much to me. So much so...let me explain. To be a "substitute teacher" who is BI Lingual in Spanish in Charlotte NC, all you have to be is a high school graduate. However if you are not bi lingual and want to be a substitute teacher you must have a teaching degree. Racism reversed?

If you want to see what can happen with uncontrolled immigration into one area , visit Concord NC and see what happened to the original part of town.
I lived there, I saw it, I dealt with it, and saw my own mother in law turned down for medicade (she's on 700.00 a month SS) because the county ran out of medicade benefits, I'll let you guess why.

I'm not afraid of anyone.

You are gonna have a field day in FL!

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by Scientifical Madness

LOL! Oh man! Wait til you get to Florida!!!

Trust me NC prepared me for it

[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

Maybe in your county

Maybe in some places like California, but overall disagree with you.
I wasn't able to find Section 8 stats on google about foreign born participants. But all of the section 8 people that I've encountered personally have been white or black native-born Americans. There may be a lot of PRs on S8, but they aren't immigrants.

[doggiebus]

Originally Posted by loillon892

The Latino immigrants of this generation are no different than any immigrants to America in the past. They come here to establish a better life for themselves and their families, obey our laws and pay taxes, and enrich our collective society with their traditions and customs. The only anti-American forces in this debate are the people who want to wall themselves up in their 99% white communities (which makes me wonder why they haven't moved to Nebraska or Kentucky yet, as opposed to staying in South Florida and being miserable because they have to - *gasp* - live around people with a different skin tone...)

I agree that this generation of Latinos is no different than past immigrants to this country. Many whites in South Florida don't have issue with skin color, it has more to do with assimilation in South Florida, which they are upset about. (I know it will take one or two generations) If new immigrants knew english before they got here, or learned it within a year of being here. Signs of assimilation. I think many more people would be much more excepting of the different cultures.

When my mother who just became a citizen a few years ago, first came to this country she learned english. As a dual citizen myself, when I go to visit my other country I don't expect them to speak english to me. I speak their language, as a courtesy to that country, but also for myself to brush up on the language. But for many (not all) new comers to the US learning english isn't their first priority. As they really don't need to know english in the United States of America to make a living. And as long as immigrants don't learn the english language the assimilation process doesn't happen. Now what is happened in South florida is non spanish speaking people can have a hard time finding a job, because many jobs now cater to the non english speaking people, and now ask for bilingual speaking people for positions. Which rubs many people the wrong way when they are in the US which is majority english speaking (I know english isn't the legal language).

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by doggiebus

I agree that this generation of Latinos is no different than past immigrants to this country. Many whites in South Florida don't have issue with skin color, it has more to do with assimilation in South Florida, which they are upset about. (I know it will take one or two generations) If new immigrants knew english before they got here, or learned it within a year of being here. Signs of assimilation. I think many more people would be much more excepting of the different cultures.

When my mother who just became a citizen a few years ago, one of the first things she did when she came to the US was to learn english. As a dual citizen myself, when I go to visit my other country I don't expect them to speak english to me. I speak their language. But for many new comers to the US learning english isn't their first priority. As they really don't need to know english in the United States of America to make a living. And as long as immigrants don't learn the english language the assimilation process doesn't happen. Which rubs many people the wrong way.

Well said. And congrats to your mother for doing it right and legal.

[loillon892]

Originally Posted by doggiebus

I agree that this generation of Latinos is no different than past immigrants to this country. Many whites in South Florida don't have issue with skin color, it has more to do with assimilation in South Florida, which they are upset about. (I know it will take one or two generations) If new immigrants knew english before they got here, or learned it within a year of being here. Signs of assimilation. I think many more people would be much more excepting of the different cultures.

I think it's unrealistic and a bit bizarre, though, to expect instantaneous assimilation from today's Latinos when no other group of immigrants in the history of this country instantly assimilated - and because of that, I believe that the commotion over "assimilation" is one of many code words being used in this debate in an attempt to cover up more nefarious instincts (i.e., I don't think many people here want Latinos to assimilate - I believe that they simply want them to leave.) The Germans, the Italians, the Irish, the Eastern Europeans...none of them instantly assimilated. It was a long, grueling process in which the communities that absorbed large quantities of immigrants changed nearly as much as the arriving immigrants. Heck, several Midwestern cities actually had German-language newspapers around the turn of the century! If you look at many Hispanic families that have been in this country for generations - New Mexico provides a great example - you see that Hispanics do in fact assimilate, just like every other immigrant group. My Hispanic friends in South Florida - most of whom were raised here by foreign-born parents - are as American as apple pie, in my book.

[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

As far as doing it legally, there are two sides to that. For years we were happy to turn a blind eye have these people come over the border and clean our toilets and pick fruit. Only now that's it's finally blown up in our faces we're mad about it. If illegal aliens are straining our health system, it's partly because of our own lack of planning--having a weird system with lots of uninsured people who use the ERs for routine medical care.

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

Maybe in some places like California, but overall disagree with you.
I wasn't able to find Section 8 stats on google about foreign born participants. But all of the section 8 people that I've encountered personally have been white or black native-born Americans. There may be a lot of PRs on S8, but they aren't immigrants.

well what can I say, disagree then, however if you haven't lived in the areas of NC of which I did, I can't force my point. First it isn't worth it and second, stats on illegals are hard to really hard to present as completely accurate.

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by Scientifical Madness

You are gonna have a field day in FL!

As well as I am prepared for all the horrible things I hear about Florida weather.

Yup, my town's temps were higher everyday for about the last 2 weeks then where I am looking to move in Florida. Heat/ Humidity got it...can take it... This is my attempt to bring it back to Florida weather ha!

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

As far as doing it legally, there are two sides to that. For years we were happy to turn a blind eye have these people come over the border and clean our toilets and pick fruit. Only now that's it's finally blown up in our faces we're mad about it. If illegal aliens are straining our health system, it's partly because of our own lack of planning--having a weird system with lots of uninsured people who use the ERs for routine medical care.

Absolutely 100% concur