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Old 07-04-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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I'm a conservative. I am not an Obama fan.

Since Obama took office, I have been monitoring Rasmussen's Tracking Poll. Rasmussen (along with Pew) is the pollster that best predicted the 2008 Presidential election results so I decided not to go fishing for the polls that told me what I wanted to hear - I'd pick one, Rasmussen, and stick with it. Rassmussen subtracts Obama's Strongly Disapprove from Strongly Approve to come up with his approval rating.

When Obama was spending like a madman, signing really outrageous spending/bailout bills and making speeches to indicate he wants to control just about everything and everybody, he enjoyed pretty consistent positive ratings, typically from Plus 2 to, if I remember correctly, Plus 11. Nobody batted an eyelash. I was appalled and I didn't get it. I didn't understand why someone who was spending our money like crazy and saying he wanted to control every aspect of our personal life was being received so favorably. He is what he is but I was thinking "What's wrong with you people?" But I sucked it up. Maybe I'm just getting old. It wasn't as if the other party looked golden, if you know what I mean.

But for the last few days Obama has, for the first time, dipped into the negative approval numbers. Did I miss something he's done recently that was extra outrageous that would turn public opinion against him? What was the thing that turned his favorable ratings in the opposite direction? Was it something the left didn't like? I haven't seen him actually change, it just seems public perception of him is changing? What did I miss last week? Is there one issue that has captured people's attention recently or is it just an accumulation of things starting to impact his approval?

Honestly, I just think Obama is being Obama. It's the public that has me baffled.

Do you know anything about the Stimulus Bill?
Do you know how many pages it was, and how many copies went to Congress?
Do you know what was in it?

Do you know where the money is?
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Here's another..LOL

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Obama’s approval rating remains steady, poll says « - Blogs from CNN.com

"Sixty-one percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday say they approve of how Obama's handling his duties as president. Thirty-seven percent disapprove."


I have NO idea where you all are getting your numbers..Oh yeah Rasmussen. What a joke.
The whole purpose of looking at poll numbers is to stick with one poll, one metholdology, and watch the trend of THAT poll, not jump around and fish for some poll that gives you what you are looking for. I told you why I picked Rasmussen in the very beginning (when Obama's approval rating was very high). It was because Rasmussen was the most accurate, along with Pew, in predicting the Presidential 2008 results. Here's how they ranked, accuracy wise in the 2008 Presidential election:

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
The whole purpose of looking at poll numbers is to stick with one poll, one metholdology, and watch the trend of THAT poll, not jump around and fish for some poll that gives you what you are looking for. I told you why I picked Rasmussen in the very beginning (when Obama's approval rating was very high). It was because Rasmussen was the most accurate, along with Pew, in predicting the Presidential 2008 results. Here's how they ranked, accuracy wise in the 2008 Presidential election:

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
Busy spinning that web eh?
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Do you know anything about the Stimulus Bill?
Do you know how many pages it was, and how many copies went to Congress?
Do you know what was in it?

Do you know where the money is?
You aren't getting the point of my post. I want to know what it was last week that made his numbers go down. Is it that an accumulation of things just starting to register with people who weren't paying attention before, did his fans become disenchanted with something or did something specifically happen last week that made people react negatively (and that I might have missed)?
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
It was because Rasmussen was the most accurate, along with Pew, in predicting the Presidential 2008 results.
You shouldn't blindly assume that they're being honest about their opinion polls just because they were good at predicting the elections. They are biased. Their opinion polls are biased. They can afford to be biased and fudge the numbers because there's nothing to back up their numbers. All we can do is compare them with the other polling organizations. If we do that, we see that Rasmussen is clearly an outlier. Something doesn't add up.
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