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As usual, you're right. I bow to your greatness and superiority.
I also just noticed that the unemployment rate consistently went downward while Clinton was president, and as soon as Bush took office, it began to climb back up. But I'm sure that's the fault of Democrats and liberals too, right?
Let me see if I understand now. I'm a Democrat, so you'll have to forgive me - I'm a slow learner. I think the lesson you're trying to teach us is this: When the economy is getting better under Democrats, it's really the Republicans who deserve the credit, and when the economy is getting worse under Republicans, it's really the Democrats who deserve the blame. Do I have it right?
Don't forget how Reagan fixed the economy. Massive tax cuts (don't even try it, revenue went up). What are we doing now, an orgy of spending that will require tax increases. All his moves are job killers.
Can you not understand that Obama did not create this mess and he's trying to get us out of it.
This stuff reminds me of the scene in Bonnie and Clyde where they're speeding madly away from the Platte City shootout and Blanche is screaming in the back of the car and Bonnie cries, "Shut up! Shut up! We are trying to get away!" You right wingers are all screaming and banging around in the back of the car and just making things worse.
Can you not understand that Obama did not create this mess and he's trying to get us out of it.
This stuff reminds me of the scene in Bonnie and Clyde where they're speeding madly away from the Platte City shootout and Blanche is screaming in the back of the car and Bonnie cries, "Shut up! Shut up! We are trying to get away!" You right wingers are all screaming and banging around in the back of the car and just making things worse.
Just as Bush inherited the fallout from the Clinton tech bubble. It was fixed with tax cuts. Reagan inherited Carters mess he fixed it with tax cuts. Roosevelt inherited Hoovers mess he increased taxes and the depression lingered until WW II. Which approach works better?
Only a liberal would be against dissent (see Chavez).
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Just as Bush inherited the fallout from the Clinton tech bubble. It was fixed with tax cuts. Reagan inherited Carters mess he fixed it with tax cuts. Roosevelt inherited Hoovers mess he increased taxes and the depression lingered until WW II. Which approach works better?
You cant possibly be trying to simplify the long, deep economic problems of the Depression by saying that if FDR had just cut taxes it would have been "fixed." Reagan and Bush didnt "fix" anything with tax cuts, they just delayed trouble. Do you seriously think that the Obama economic advisors rejected a golden idea -- tax cuts -- just to be spiteful, even though tax cuts are actually the best way out? We wouldnt be in the mess we're in now if tax cuts "fixed" anything. Shut up. We're trying to get away.
You cant possibly be trying to simplify the long, deep economic problems of the Depression by saying that if FDR had just cut taxes it would have been "fixed." Reagan and Bush didnt "fix" anything with tax cuts, they just delayed trouble. Do you seriously think that the Obama economic advisors rejected a golden idea -- tax cuts -- just to be spiteful, even though tax cuts are actually the best way out? We wouldnt be in the mess we're in now if tax cuts "fixed" anything. Shut up. We're trying to get away.
I think they have an ideology of centralized government. Central government control is exhibited by their take over of the banks, auto industry and health care. Cap and trade is simply a way to regulate everything that happens in the economy. This type of central planning has been tried in the past and failed. They are an arrogant crew. They screwed up stimulus and they blame Bush even though they have only spent 11% of the $787 billion. Now they are looking for more stimulus. That makes a lot of sense. I think more and more Americans are catching on to the fact that they are clueless.
Obama isnt permanently "taking over" the banks, auto industry or health care. Before the financial crisis became one of the McCain and Obama campaign issues in summer 2008 Obama never indicated he was interested in getting involved with "taking over" any industries, sectors, etc.
"Cap and trade" -- emissions trading has been around for years and years. Many countries use it. In the US states have been using it for about a decade for different forms of pollutant. It's ironic that right wingers should be against it because it's about as free market as you can get.
Ha ha ha ha ha.....You are serious. Wow folks I never really took the left seriously but this takes the cake. they simply have no clue. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Obama isnt permanently "taking over" the banks, auto industry or health care. Before the financial crisis became one of the McCain and Obama campaign issues in summer 2008 Obama never indicated he was interested in getting involved with "taking over" any industries, sectors, etc.
"Cap and trade" -- emissions trading has been around for years and years. Many countries use it. In the US states have been using it for about a decade for different forms of pollutant. It's ironic that right wingers should be against it because it's about as free market as you can get.
I see the government and union shares in the auto industry are temporary, uh they are not, the government is crafting regulations to keep control over banking, they are taking over health care.
See folks we need intense economic education in this country. This poster believes a government imposed cap and trade is a free market solution. I am sure the poster doesn't understand the inherent contradiction in that sentence. Also this poster notes cap and trade has been around for a while in europe yet never took the extra step to see how it is working. Everyone acknowledges it is a job killer. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...lls_97168.html (if you wish to contest this point please provide contradictory evidence, please do not use the old ruse of asking me for more documentation)
You cant possibly be trying to simplify the long, deep economic problems of the Depression by saying that if FDR had just cut taxes it would have been "fixed." Reagan and Bush didnt "fix" anything with tax cuts, they just delayed trouble. Do you seriously think that the Obama economic advisors rejected a golden idea -- tax cuts -- just to be spiteful, even though tax cuts are actually the best way out? We wouldnt be in the mess we're in now if tax cuts "fixed" anything. Shut up. We're trying to get away.
By the way Tax cuts would have gotten us out of the depression much sooner.
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