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Old 07-10-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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If the government has to be involved in health care, it should be only as an intermdiary between CITIZENS and private health care companies, like a private employer is. All CITIZENS should pay something, on a sliding scale of income, toward their premiums, even if it's only $1.00. If we can set this up and get rid of medicaid and medicare, I'd be fine with it.
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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It is not the responsibility of the consumer to pay through the nose to help MDs pay off their student loans. We all make choices.
It may not be your responsibility, but as unfortunate as it sounds, we all are paying for it in one way or another. Unless of course, your doctor takes chickens in trade... It must be included in the cost of doing business.
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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If the government has to be involved in health care, it should be only as an intermdiary between CITIZENS and private health care companies, like a private employer is. All CITIZENS should pay something, on a sliding scale of income, toward their premiums, even if it's only $1.00. If we can set this up and get rid of medicaid and medicare, I'd be fine with it.
Sliding scale of income? Huh? You have an appendicitis... you make 50k then you owe $1k but if you make 100k then you owe $2k? What kind of B.S. is that?
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It is not the responsibility of the consumer to pay through the nose to help MDs pay off their student loans. We all make choices. That said, I have no problem with MDs making a decent income.
agreed. It is in fact, not the G.P.'s (well, I guess they call them "primary care" providers, now) that are making the big bucks. . . it is all of the "specialists", and I'm not saying that they do not deserve to be compensated for their deeper understanding of certain medical issues, but it does seem that those going into the medical profession should be more concerned about patient care as they are are about great wealth. . . as should the administrators of health insurance companies. . . oh well! in a perfect world. . . . .
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Sliding scale of income? Huh? You have an appendicitis... you make 50k then you owe $1k but if you make 100k then you owe $2k? What kind of B.S. is that?
There would be a cap for the top amount to be paid..... Duuuuuuuuuh!
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It may not be your responsibility, but as unfortunate as it sounds, we all are paying for it in one way or another. Unless of course, your doctor takes chickens in trade... It must be included in the cost of doing business.
My city doesn't allow chicken coops. Maybe I could trade some of my home-canned tomatoes?
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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My city doesn't allow chicken coops. Maybe I could trade some of my home-canned tomatoes?
Heck, I feel "lucky", it's hard to grow tomatos, most of the year, here in Phoenix, but I do have backyard laying hens. . . service for "eggs"? Now, don't let the "right to life" crowd get wind of this
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:14 AM
 
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Sliding scale of income? Huh? You have an appendicitis... you make 50k then you owe $1k but if you make 100k then you owe $2k? What kind of B.S. is that?
It's better than we have now, when you make 50k you pay nothing.

In a perfect world, it's capitalism at its finest where we all are responsible for ourselves. Sadly, our leaders lack the guts to make this happen.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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It's better than we have now, when you make 50k you pay nothing.
Wow... where is this free medical attention that says if you make 50 you don't pay.. I must have missed the memo somewhere?
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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What I am saying is that medicaid operates at a 5% overhead and private insurance operates at a 25%.

Those that are uninsured are NOT poor people that wouldn't couldn't nor are lookign for FREE healthcare. However, they can't afford the current premiums the way the system operates.

I'm saying eliminate 25% of the overhead in the private system and you save an average family over $3,000 a year in premiums.

Your thinking seems to be that the government is suddenly going to be paying the full cost for 46 million. Those 46 millino pay taxes you know? They do have money to pay for premiums.. just not at the current costs.. and then there are those that cant' even get insurance at all because of pre-existing conditions.

Those that are to be completely subsidized already are..they are on medicaid . If 46 million people unsinsured were so because htey were poor, we wouldn't be having this conversation. THey would be on medicaid.

Post office is facing issues that faces every industry INCLUDING insurance. They'll adjust and it will work out.
Works great when you get to decide all the rules, and the govt. will do exactly what you expect them to do. Good thing the govt. doesn't support the notion of UHC.
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