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Old 07-08-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: California
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you can be lost all you want. obama will lead you.


That was not only irrelevant to what I wrote but not even the least bit clever.

You really should think your 'one liners' through before posting.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:06 PM
 
Location: fla
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Fellow Americans,
Please know: I am black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth living. I do not require a black president to love the ideal of America.
I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history of the United States of America, all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America. Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them. I would have to be wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration - political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.
I would have to believe that "fairness" is equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.
Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.
So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a black man to the office of the president of the United States, the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over - and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a black person. So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel good. There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.
November 6, 2008
so well said-- i agree and salute you
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Ayn Rand follower. Nutjob in the extreme. No evidence for her screeching assertions--just full-out nonsensical sprung-from-the-air B.S.

And the right wing thinks that, because she's black, she's somehow vindicated their own paranoid rantings against Obama.

are you talking about the same ayn rand that wrote a book 50 years ago, and it sold more copies than barry the village idiots did during the election?
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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That was not only irrelevant to what I wrote but not even the least bit clever.

You really should think your 'one liners' through before posting.
no I shouldn't. you should think about my one liners before I post them. now if you will excuse me, I am listening to the stray cats.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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are you talking about the same ayn rand that wrote a book 50 years ago, and it sold more copies than barry the village idiots did during the election?
Yes, I believe he's talking about that very one.

It's a shame when even blind sheeple mentality cannot sell more copies of a book than reasoned thinking.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Yes, I believe he's talking about that very one.

It's a shame when even blind sheeple mentality cannot sell more copies of a book than reasoned thinking.
that cracks me up. barry was the trendy soup of the day, and rand still spanked his little bottom. the classics are timeless. guys like barry, well they come and go daily. he's probably the most uninteresting person I have ever seen. at least bush knew he was a joke. barry seems to be impressed with his own failure.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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That was not only irrelevant to what I wrote but not even the least bit clever.

You really should think your 'one liners' through before posting.
Damn funny, though.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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Yes, I believe he's talking about that very one.

It's a shame when even blind sheeple mentality cannot sell more copies of a book than reasoned thinking.
Could you or thefinal give a link to the sales numbers for The Fountainhead vs the Obama book(s), please?
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Could you or thefinal give a link to the sales numbers for The Fountainhead vs the Obama book(s), please?
Pick the worst from one author and compare with the best of the other?

Nice metrics.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Could you or thefinal give a link to the sales numbers for The Fountainhead vs the Obama book(s), please?

this is a quote from wiki. you can go to the economist if you want to browse for the article, but I am not going to.

In the wake of the late 2000s recession, sales of Atlas Shrugged have sharply increased, according to The Economist magazine and The New York Times. The Economist reported that the fifty-two-year-old novel ranked #33 among Amazon.com's top-selling books on 13 January, 2009 and that its thirty day sales average showed the novel selling three times faster than during the same period of the previous year, outselling even the newly elected Barack Obama's latest title.
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