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Old 07-08-2009, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by thefinalsay View Post
Fellow Americans,
Please know: I am black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth living. I do not require a black president to love the ideal of America.
I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history of the United States of America, all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America. Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them. I would have to be wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration - political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.
I would have to believe that "fairness" is equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.
Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.
So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a black man to the office of the president of the United States, the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over - and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a black person. So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel good. There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.
November 6, 2008
That must have been written by an Uncle Tom, Aunt Jemima or by a certain talk show host named Herman Cain. It is all BS. And blacks did not vote for Obama because he is "black". Obama is NOT black, he is 1/2 white and was raised by white folks who had far more influence on him than his African father did. Blacks voted for him because they always vote Democrat. They voted for Gore, Clinton and Mondale too. They even voted for Orval Faubus and George Wallace.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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So, this is 'relevant' because the writer is black?
I can find lots of white essayists who didn't like President Bush. Does that make their opinion more valid because they, like he, are white? Or, how about white essayists from Texas? Even more valid?

The good doctor is entitled to her opinion and I certainly don't consider her a traitor to her race because of her views anymore than I consider her an authority because of it.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
A black woman who grew up in the segregated South who couldnt understand the value of a black man becoming president of the United States.

How strange.

Oh well, she's entitled to her opinion.
She also cannot spell "Jimmy Carter"
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:50 PM
 
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Didn't you know? When a white person makes a negative comment about another white person, it's just their individual opinion. But when a black person makes a negative comment about another black person, it's the gospel truth.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~

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So, this is 'relevant' because the writer is black?
I can find lots of white essayists who didn't like President Bush. Does that make their opinion more valid because they, like he, are white? Or, how about white essayists from Texas? Even more valid?

The good doctor is entitled to her opinion and I certainly don't consider her a traitor to her race because of her views anymore than I consider her an authority because of it.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by ViewFromThePeak View Post
"Delusional Uncle Tom alert!"

I guess that's the only possible rebuttal an Obamatron can offer.

The following explanations are slightly more tin foil hattish:
"She's mentally unstable"
"A GOP member bribed her to say this"
"She's a Ron Paul supporter...what do you expect?"

Finally, there's:
"You can't please everyone"

We should start a poll
She is obviously a self loathing race traitor and partisan hack.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Didn't you know? When a white person makes a negative comment about another white person, it's just their individual opinion. But when a black person makes a negative comment about another black person, it's the gospel truth.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~
That's not how it goes:

"When a white person makes a negative comment about another white person, it's just their individual opinion. But when a black person makes a negative comment about another black person," they are verbally drawn and quartered by other blacks, and held up as race traitors of some sort.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by thefinalsay View Post
Fellow Americans,
Please know: I am black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth living. I do not require a black president to love the ideal of America.
I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history of the United States of America, all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America. Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them. I would have to be wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration - political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.
I would have to believe that "fairness" is equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.
Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.
So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a black man to the office of the president of the United States, the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over - and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a black person. So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel good. There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.
November 6, 2008
This is special...

Some of the same people who posted in this thread who agree with this automatically think the worst about black people, automatically agree with what this woman is saying. That phoniess is so apparent.

Out of those who are agreeing and praising with this woman, I'd wonder about how many of you would have a negative image of her if you saw her walking down the street.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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LOL! Again, you just proved the point. When said black person makes a negative comment about another black person, particularly when it supports the position of a certain subset of white people, it is perceived as the gospel. It allows you to feel vindicated/validated because someone black agrees with you.

As I said previously, she's entitled to her opinion and other black people are entitled to draw a conclusion about her based upon what she believes.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~


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That's not how it goes:

"When a white person makes a negative comment about another white person, it's just their individual opinion. But when a black person makes a negative comment about another black person," they are verbally drawn and quartered by other blacks, and held up as race traitors of some sort.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
That's not how it goes:

"When a white person makes a negative comment about another white person, it's just their individual opinion. But when a black person makes a negative comment about another black person," they are verbally drawn and quartered by other blacks, and held up as race traitors of some sort.
Um no...sorry.

You should just apply your line of thinking to the comment. If a black person doesn't agree with you, they are ignorant...if they do, like this essay says, then they are brilliant.

Yeah, right...
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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Yes, I believe he's talking about that very one.

It's a shame when even blind sheeple mentality cannot sell more copies of a book than reasoned thinking.
What's an even bigger shame is Republican bottom-feeding: compulsive foraging on the internet for any anti-Obama/anti-government screed written by any wingnut.

It's not looking good for the Republican party. . . .
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