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Boy, I sure hope I don't get hit with this "fat disease" that's beyond my control with nothing I can possibly hope to do about it. Maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones.
Boy, I sure hope I don't get hit with this "fat disease" that's beyond my control with nothing I can possibly hope to do about it. Maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones.
You know what? I hope you don't get any of the number of things that make losing weight difficult (if not impossible), too. I would not wish that on anyone. It opens you up for ridicule as people make assumptions about how you live based on how you look.
Yes, it is well documented that as you lose mass your base metabolic rate also decreases, so you require fewer calories. In the real world it means you should reach a plateau in which you stop losing weight. A calorie (actually we are talking about kilo calories here) is a scientific measurement of energy and does not change because of the presence or absence of a test tube.
I'm not talking about dieters who lose weight. There are many cases of dieters who do not lose weight with calorie restriction, but it will indeed lower your metabolism as the body goes into starvation mode.
Scientific measures of energy are more difficult to quantify in a biological organism that has hormonal defenses against its perception of starvation.
Do you think that the 95% of people who regain their lost weight are simply lazy overeaters? I think this is too simplistic a view, and that other factors need to be taken into account.
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I'm not talking about dieters who lose weight. There are many cases of dieters who do not lose weight with calorie restriction, but it will indeed lower your metabolism as the body goes into starvation mode.
So, are you suggesting that once weight is gained there is no way to lose it? Seriously?
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Scientific measures of energy are more difficult to quantify in a biological organism that has hormonal defenses against its perception of starvation.
A calorie is defined as a specific amount of energy. Its does not matter what the source or use of that energy is, ok? It doesn't change the definition. Fat contains a known amount of calories. Still with me? The laws of thermodynamics state that energy cannot be destroyed or created, so to store a pound of fat, 3500 or more calories must be eaten. Still there? Hormones and perceptions of starvation do not change this fact.
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Do you think that the 95% of people who regain their lost weight are simply lazy overeaters? I think this is too simplistic a view, and that other factors need to be taken into account.
Over eaters? Yes, there is no doubt about that. Lazy? Maybe. A simplistic view would be that people are powerless to control their weight.
Actually it is that simple. Regardless of whether someone has a medical condition or not, fat is stored energy. The body absolutely cannot violate the laws of thermodynamics. To gain a pound of fat one must have a surplus of at least 3500 calories( actually more as no energy conversion is %100 efficient ).
Of course! That's why a couple of years ago when I was ingesting a mere 1,000 calories a day, walking wherever I went, swimming twice a day and trying to lose a few extra pounds, I actually GAINED 10 pounds in a month!
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Of course! That's why a couple of years ago when I was ingesting a mere 1,000 calories a day, walking wherever I went, swimming twice a day and trying to lose a few extra pounds, I actually GAINED 10 pounds in a month!
Look, if you are going to lie about something you should at least make sure that your claim is physically possible. Yours isn't.
Ok lets do the math. ( yeah I know, math is hard! )
You gained 10 pounds in a month (we'll use 30 days for a month since you didn't specify which month)
1 pound of fat requires 3500 calories of energy
So you must have consumed at least 35,000 calories in that month for an average of 1167 calories a day over your base metabolic rate.
1000 calories a day would not be enough calories to gain 10 pounds in a month even if ALL of your energy was converted into fat, which of course it cannot be. The most that could be gained on 30,000 calories ( 1000 x 30 ) is 8.6 pounds. ( 30,000/3500 )
Sorry, your claim cannot be true. Would you like to try again?
I walk a lot and also swim to keep off the extra pounds. Your metabolisim does slow down during menopause (women, well maybe some men) so it becomes more important to watch your caloric intake even more so. There is a couple of great web sites that you can use to monitor your calories and my daughter uses Spark People. She has lost 20 lbs and is looking great. She also has a medical condition that makes it even harder to take off pounds so it isnt always about how much you eat.
Look, if you are going to lie about something you should at least make sure that your claim is physically possible. Yours isn't.
Ok lets do the math. ( yeah I know, math is hard! )
You gained 10 pounds in a month (we'll use 30 days for a month since you didn't specify which month)
1 pound of fat requires 3500 calories of energy
So you must have consumed at least 35,000 calories in that month for an average of 1167 calories a day over your base metabolic rate.
1000 calories a day would not be enough calories to gain 10 pounds in a month even if ALL of your energy was converted into fat, which of course it cannot be. The most that could be gained on 30,000 calories ( 1000 x 30 ) is 8.6 pounds. ( 30,000/3500 )
Sorry, your claim cannot be true. Would you like to try again?
Did you also know that some cancers actually cause bloating and sudden weight gain? Great math, but you don't read much do you?
One more thing.... crash diets, or starvation diets even with working out can cause one to go into survival mode and keep on the extra weight and even add weight at first.
Did you also know that some cancers actually cause bloating and sudden weight gain? Great math, but you don't read much do you?
One more thing.... crash diets, or starvation diets even with working out can cause one to go into survival mode and keep on the extra weight and even add weight at first.
Despite what some people are posting, it takes a while to put on 100 lbs of extra weight. You just don't wake up one morning....and all of the sudden you are 100lbs overweight. Most people have the slinky effect, they notice that there clothes are not starting to fit and they start dieting and/or exercising. The minority of people just continue to buy larger clothes and continue to eat.
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