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Old 07-18-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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My blatant lie? Unlike you, my source puts it at 90%. Nothing else that you wrote merits a response; it's filled with nothing but false machismo, false GOP "talking points" and personal attacks. That might work with some women, but it simply marks you as an uninformed and shallow debater to me. Bully-boys are always the biggest cowards.

Footnote Fahrenheit : Before 9/11 : Bush's first months in office (approval ratings, judicial nominations, energy plan, vacations)
He is merely giving his opinion, and many people agree with it.
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That is a very good question. I wish I had an answer, I truly do. I keep voting for real conservatives in every election since 1972, but none have won the GOP nomination since Reagan.

Part of the problem has to do with the conservative principle of a limited government. "That government is best which governs the least." By definition, real conservatives do not seek power, they seek to limit power. This means there will always be few real conservative actually running for public office.
It also means it is harder to campaign as a conservative, since they are not coming up with oodles of taxpayer funded give away programs like their more liberal counterparts always seem to do. too many Americans are of the mindset of "What will government give me" and a candidate who is not tossing around money like confetti at a parade will have tougher time getting votes.


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You read correctly, Bush and McCain are hardly conservative, by any stretch of the imagination.

Bush expanded the size of the federal government more than any President since FDR when he nationalized airport security. Bush has more in common with LBJ than any other Republican President. Both Bush and LBJ had Congress massively increase domestic socialist spending while fighting a major overseas war. That is not exactly a conservative trait.

McCain would have switched parties in 2001, had not "Jumpin" Jim Jeffords beat him to it in May 2001. McCain is so liberal in fact, that Kerry seriously considered picking McCain as his 2004 running mate.
Bush and McCain have confused and muddied the image of conservatives, so that people see them as just watered down versions of a Democrat. Why vote for Democrat-lite, when they can vote for the real thing?

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Governor Palin is indeed a real conservative. Even with a Republican controlled State Legislature, Governor Palin has no problem vetoing their excessive spending and limiting the size of State government. Unlike both Bush and McCain, or any Democrat, Governor Palin actually puts the US and State Constitutions above her own personal preferences. Like Sen. Goldwater, Gov. Palin does more than just pay conservative principles lip-service. This was why she was far more popular among Americans than McCain during the election, and why the liberal freaks and their media lackeys feel so threatened and need to denigrate her at every opportunity.
But the class bigots do not like her for her common up bringing, and her lack of Ivy League schools and her backwards Alaskan accent and her folksy demeanor. And still others do not like her because they cannot spin her as a stereotypical balding, rich snobbish, racist, sexist white guy.
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Hmm I dont recall to many riots caused by Republicans lately.
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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Nine years ago is defined as "lately"? And a few people shouting slogans is a riot?

Miami 'Riot' Squad: Where Are They Now? (washingtonpost.com)

http://www.washintonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/graphics/intheloop_012405.jpg (broken link)
Run for your lives, the rioteers are coming!!! That gal on the far right looks menacing.. flee for your lives!!!
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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He is merely giving his opinion, and many people agree with it.
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No, he/she didn't dispute my "opinions" but rather chose to make a personal attack of it. I don't believe that I've yet referred to another poster as a "blatant liar." That goes beyond the pale, particularly when I was responding to other posters to begin with. There are many who agree with my opinions as well; that's why there was a major shift in the country in November. Care to cite any Democrat-initiated riots lately?
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, he/she didn't dispute my "opinions" but rather chose to make a personal attack of it. I don't believe that I've yet referred to another poster as a "blatant liar." That goes beyond the pale, particularly when I was responding to other posters to begin with. There are many who agree with my opinions as well; that's why there was a major shift in the country in November. Care to cite any Democrat-initiated riots lately?
I could care less about searching for democrat riots, you are just upset because your lame attempt at finding republican riots amounted to 8 people shouting slogans. ROFL

As far as political shifts go, 0bama and his democrats in Washington are causing a dramatic shift in people's thinking. The democrat party, lead by 0bama, have shown America what happens when we give them the keys to the nation, trillions in record deficits, millions upon millions out of work, take over of GM and Chrysler, and never ending attempts at government power grabs over every aspect of our lives.

Come 2010, a drooling monkey could win an election contest over a democrat.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I could care less about searching for democrat riots, you are just upset because your lame attempt at finding republican riots amounted to 8 people shouting slogans. ROFL

As far as political shifts go, 0bama and his democrats in Washington are causing a dramatic shift in people's thinking. The democrat party, lead by 0bama, have shown America what happens when we give them the keys to the nation, trillions in record deficits, millions upon millions out of work, take over of GM and Chrysler, and never ending attempts at government power grabs over every aspect of our lives.

Come 2010, a drooling monkey could win an election contest over a democrat.

We will certainly see about that. You do remember, right, that the financial system imploded under a Republican Congress, a Republican Vice President (GWB was and is irrelevant), a Republican Federal Reserve and Treasury and a Republican SEC that still has no idea who or what Bernie Madoff is.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I could care less about searching for democrat riots, you are just upset because your lame attempt at finding republican riots amounted to 8 people shouting slogans. ROFL

As far as political shifts go, 0bama and his democrats in Washington are causing a dramatic shift in people's thinking. The democrat party, lead by 0bama, have shown America what happens when we give them the keys to the nation, trillions in record deficits, millions upon millions out of work, take over of GM and Chrysler, and never ending attempts at government power grabs over every aspect of our lives.

Come 2010, a drooling monkey could win an election contest over a democrat.
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Didn't read it, did you? Then you missed the part about 250 GOP staffers being flown in to "riot." Not 8, but 250. You asked and I delivered; I asked and you fumbled the ball. ROFLMAO indeed.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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We will certainly see about that. You do remember, right, that the financial system imploded under a Republican Congress, a Republican Vice President (GWB was and is irrelevant), a Republican Federal Reserve and Treasury and a Republican SEC that still has no idea who or what Bernie Madoff is.
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Another "inconvenient truth." Doubt you'll get a straight answer. Excellent post.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: AL
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Lol your sh*tting me...right?
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