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Old 07-08-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Originally Posted by Jill61 View Post
Yeah, it's illegal. And rightfully so. You sound like you belong in the Civil War era South.
The civil war era south was full of less educated agrarian individuals, so your statement makes no sense.

Voting is not a right in the constitution.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I am starting to think that maybe people should have to take a basic test in order to be registered to vote. It seems to me that most people in this country no more about Michael Jackson, the NFL, or Spencer Pratt than they know about issues that have enormous impacts on all of our lives. The test would cover:

Basic Economics
Basic Current Events
Basic U.S. History
Basic World History

Should someone be allowed to vote that can't point to Europe on a map, or can't tell you what supply equals?
If your goal is to drastically reduce the number of people who vote, that will certainly do the trick. Why not just eliminate voting altogether?

This is the same tactic Democrats used to keep blacks from voting in the southern states. Basic literacy tests were created and when a black man showed up to vote, they would hand him a Chinese newspaper and ask them to read it. If they could not read Chinese, they could not vote.

Sounds like your goal is similar to the southern bigots.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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How about only property owners can vote, as it was originally here?
Or only those who prove on demand they can read, or if they cant read, can at least pay their assigned poll tax?
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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I am starting to think that maybe people should have to take a basic test in order to be registered to vote. It seems to me that most people in this country no more about Michael Jackson, the NFL, or Spencer Pratt than they know about issues that have enormous impacts on all of our lives. The test would cover:

Basic Economics
Basic Current Events
Basic U.S. History
Basic World History

Should someone be allowed to vote that can't point to Europe on a map, or can't tell you what supply equals?


good grief
I would just love to have someone decent to vote for!!
And I also want term limits, I think we should scrub the whole lot of them and start over
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Yeah, it's illegal. And rightfully so. You sound like you belong in the Civil War era South.
That sounds like a racist statement to me. Are you somehow suggesting that african american's would be disproportionately affected?

I said NOTHING about property ownership or racial requirements. I didn't say require college degrees. I said BASIC info that ANYONE can go to a public library and find in two hours. Did you even READ my posts?

I am going to assume that you oppose this idea because you don't think you would pass a basic test.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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How about only property owners can vote, as it was originally here?
that was pre income tax though. if they pay tax, they should be able to vote.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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that was pre income tax though. if they pay tax, they should be able to vote.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Oh yes, let's disenfranchise all those who came from poor schools and poverty.
Folks, ANYONE can go to a PUBLIC library and find out the sort of info I suggested in TWO hours.

The disenfranchise argument is simply intellectually dishonest.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Voting is not a right in the constitution.
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Source: 15th Amendment of the US Constitution
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Source: 19th Amendment of the US Constitution
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

Source: 24th Amendment of the US Constitution
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The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

Source: 26th Amendment of the US Constitution
Well I guess you should not be allow to vote then since you clearly have never even read the US Constitution.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Folks, ANYONE can go to a PUBLIC library and find out the sort of info I suggested in TWO hours.

The disenfranchise argument is simply intellectually dishonest.
^ this.
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