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Old 07-10-2009, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Stole it?
Yes. Stole it. As in took land that was not theirs to take.

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No,the colonists and later the US defeated the native tribes in war.

That was how it went back then,even when the natives were fighting each other.
And it was the same back then.

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As to enslaving black people,there is enough blame to be spread around on that one...from the black tribes selling other blacks,to the Muslim slave traders,to the white slavers....
OK, so you're saying.........

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Of course the funny thing is that slavery was by and large,abolished BY whites.
Great. They finally saw the light and got rid of an institution that should have never been in the first place. And they did it only because it stopped being feasible economically.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
Read my post again...on the info presented.

Would yelling "This is a WHITE world" while assaulting your family be hateful?
If they find evidence that it was a hate crime under the statutes, then it shoudl be constituted as such, plain & simple.

Is the investigation finished yet? has the final determination been made?
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:13 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Great. They finally saw the light and got rid of an institution that should have never been in the first place. And they did it only because it stopped being feasible economically.
No actually it was not for that reason,you base your beliefs upon the USA,even though the African slave trade was a global issue.

As to stealing the land,again taking your defeated foe's land was not stealing,it was simply how it was done and has been done from the beginning of time.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:14 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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If they find evidence that it was a hate crime under the statutes, then it shoudl be constituted as such, plain & simple.

Is the investigation finished yet? has the final determination been made?
Why are you beating round the bush?

From the info presented,is it a hate crime to YOU?

Is yelling 'Its a black world" to a white person while savagely beating them hatred?
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:20 AM
 
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Why are you beating round the bush?

From the info presented,is it a hate crime to YOU?

Is yelling 'Its a black world" to a white person while savagely beating them hatred?
Um, no - I'm not beating around the bush. If you want me to say yes just to agree with you I wont do that until I see more information on the investigation, which should be done anyway - but many times not done on CD.

I couldnt find your link, you are welcome to point it to me so I can find it.

If that falls under the statutes of a hate crime, then it is plain & simple. I'm not just going to agree with you carte blanche to make you feel better without seeing evidence for myself.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:20 AM
 
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No actually it was not for that reason,you base your beliefs upon the USA,even though the African slave trade was a global issue.
Actually, I know all about how the slave trade dispersed Africans all over the world. Port-au-Prince, Tumaco, Santiago, Salvador, Portobello, and countless other cities in this hemisphere with black majorities also suffer from the effects of the Middle Passage and subsequent white supremacist cultural genocide.

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As to stealing the land,again taking your defeated foe's land was not stealing,it was simply how it was done and has been done from the beginning of time.
Couch it in whatever euphemisms you wish to in order to feel better about it.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Um, no - I'm not beating around the bush. If you want me to say yes just to agree with you I wont do that until I see more information on the investigation, which should be done anyway - but many times not done on CD.

I couldnt find your link, you are welcome to point it to me so I can find it.

If that falls under the statutes of a hate crime, then it is plain & simple. I'm not just going to agree with you carte blanche to make you feel better without seeing evidence for myself.
We aren't discussing whether it is a hate crime by the law,but whether YOU think it is based upon hate.

Are you a politician by any chance because you sure beat round the bush like one.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Actually, I know all about how the slave trade dispersed Africans all over the world. Port-au-Prince, Tumaco, Santiago, Salvador, Portobello, and countless other cities in this hemisphere with black majorities also suffer from the effects of the Middle Passage and subsequent white supremacist cultural genocide.
White supremacist???LOL.



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Couch it in whatever euphemisms you wish to in order to feel better about it.
I do not need to feel better about it,it is just how it is.
EVERY race and ethnicity has done exactly the same.

You just seem to be stuck on the evil whiteys.

I am glad actually that the Indians were defeated,it made for a better nation.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, it is happening. Preference to live in a community which reflects one's own values and culture is not racist. Has nothing to do with race or color, but values. Multiculturalism doesn't work.
What are you talking about?

What experiences are you basing this off of? What cities have you lived in? What environments have you lived in?
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:35 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Sounds like it to me too. I guess you have to be white to do a hate crime. Get used to it. That is the way things seem to be going. White people just don't matter anymore.

Our ancestors built a country where people can be free to do as they want and this is how they use that freedom. Some people just don't have the maturity to be free. With every privilege comes a responsibility. It is time for some to step up to the plate and be responsible or maybe they should rot in prison.

My husband said that the hate crime law is the dumbest thing he has ever heard. Just lock up the criminals. What was on their minds when they did the crime doesn't matter. He said every crime is a hate crime.
When you classify a crime as a "hate crime" you intensify and politicize it.

That's the goal of many groups who seek national attention for their cause and know that the media coverage will be much greater and on the larger, national scale.
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