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Old 07-10-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by thefinalsay View Post
probably the same reason dems are obsessed with an ex governor from alaska.
Seriously??

A potentially ersatz Tally CC college sophomore is of equal import to an ex governor and potential candidate for POTUS?? You don't think much of the potential candidate, do you??

BTW - the potentially ersatz Tally CC college sophomore is far more literate than said potential candidate for the POTUS....
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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double standard is what I was calling you out on. I haven't seen you ever come to a middle ground with anyone left of Limbaugh. I find it amusing that someone with your views would eve atempt to call anyone else out on bbeing partisan.
I think that I often come right out and admit my partisanship which seems to be something that you folks of the real left don't often, if ever, do.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:05 AM
 
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I see that you know very little about our higher education system unless you mean that the job of community colleges is to create good little liberal followers. Many kids start out at a community college and go on to four schools for a variety of reasons. Often the main reason is cost since the community school is in their home town or very close.

Oh well, probably you were thinking of my first suggestion.
Roy - throwing down the gauntlet here.

How about one, just ONE post where you don't mention the word liberal or left - in any of their denigrating forms?? Bet you can't do it....
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Seriously??

A potentially ersatz Tally CC college sophomore is of equal import to an ex governor and potential candidate for POTUS?? You don't think much of the potential candidate, do you??

BTW - the potentially ersatz Tally CC college sophomore is far more literate than said potential candidate for the POTUS....
That young man, who you call ersatz, does seem to be a bit more literate than most of them of that age that I get to read. Of course, literate ability doesn't translate into sound political thinking or political ability. He will be a hard worker for the party just as the woman you mention, without saying the name, so adroitly will be. The difference is that one will have to work on a localized level and the other will use her charisma to talk to large audiences beating the political drum for various candidates for various offices all over the country.

Yes, that woman has a large following and they will show up to hear her speak no matter how hard the left tries to discredit her. Many of them will show up just to spite the left.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Roy - throwing down the gauntlet here.

How about one, just ONE post where you don't mention the word liberal or left - in any of their denigrating forms?? Bet you can't do it....
That seems to be about equal with your calling that young man an ersatz student. I guess you didn't come right out and say that someone else wrote that, other than a black young student, but you surely did imply that. I am like you in thinking that very few people that young tend to write like that but I do admit that it can happen since all young people are not "followers" only.

I don't choose to talk against lefties without saying the words. Does that really bother you or are you trying hard to discredit me like the, how do I describe that part of the media without saying the words, part of the media that is so afraid of Palin? It appears to me that you would be less likely to accept the words, you folks, or something akin but since you don't like to be called left leaning (did that thrill you?) you might try to be a little less like that.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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No problem...but you are right, most of the black men in my life are dems.
I am sorry for leaving that impression that did sound very racial, in retrospect, but most of the young black men I know are Dems also. That is nothing to be against them for but it is a fact. I wish it weren't so because as the young man being discussed here says, blacks in the post-civil war days tended to vote Republican. Now maybe that was "carpetbagger" influence but I choose to think that they were willing to go along with the followers of the man who won that war and freed them by proclamation before it was over. I just can't see what they allowed themselves to change sides but sure don't want to blame them for being "wrong" because they did, either. We all have the right to accept any political belief we want to accept.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why is it any kind of stupidity to question the source for a controversial post?



No. But it could be because you have a Yahoo mail account and I don't.
Ray I got both of the links that were supplied later to work and one of them sure didn't show anything yahoo involved but I do think that you may have hit on the problem. Have you ever seen this thing linked anywhere yet?
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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lmao did Bill Bennet write this?
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The republican party and the democrat party did nothing for slaves, white people, black people and or religions.

Individuals and ideas changed this world, it would change no matter what because the day the constitution and the bill of rights were written it inspired a nation and other nations for people to believe in something.
To remove kings and queens, the class standards, the color and race and peoples liberty to speak about what they feel openly.
Freedom of speech, freedom of ideas and without freedom and even just the word those in slavery or those oppressed any where in the world is what all humans desire.
With a R or D next to your name is the downfall of a nation.
Government is not the solution the individual is and liberty starts in the minds of individuals not via a government program.
This post deserves some support because by and large it is so right. However, the man most responsible for the outcome of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln, was also the man most responsible for the formation of the Republican Party. I only wish that he could have lived through the Reconstruction Era to see if he could have remained strong enough to carry it out better than the Radical Republicans managed to do. I believe that he was maybe the only man alive then to get it done as it should have been done and not because of political party.

I say these words about Lincoln right after saying that I don't consider Washington a great man but do think that there were no men, of national prominence, who could have used the best of the thinkers, American, of the day to get that government started and successful so that makes him a great man in my estimation. Washington was surely not a party man but he did follow the thinking of Hamilton more often than Jefferson and that says that he believed what eventually became Republican.

I never could be a Republican until 1972 when the Democrats nominated George McGovern for President and that nominating an admitted socialist drove me from them. I haven't been close to voting for a Dem since that year because I saw every one of their candidates as too far left for me. I have voted for some really bad candidates to keep from voting for those left leaners. Left in my eyes, that is.

Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have the political system we have and could live like you suggested? Yes it surely would be nice!!!!
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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What kind of sense do these black conservatives make in their arguments?
Sorry, but I wouldn't expect you to recognize that young man's "sense" because of lack of desire to be other than political and not the way he sees things, either.
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