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Old 07-10-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Okay, sorry. I misunderstood your post.
Actually I went back and re-read the post I commented on and my comment could have gone either way as both funds and border control are mentioned.

Definitely don't want to fork over more funds.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they were able to get a decent paying job they could afford more.

Now I dont support illegals being here. I can understand the reasons for coming here at the sametime.

They believe in family values and not aborting a baby yes they are terrible people to do what comes natural
If there were no such thing as "anchor babies" and the benefits they bring it might deter some of them from coming.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: mancos
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screw california they let it happen so they should pay for it and quit whining. hell with sanctuary cities' i have one near me and i would not buy a bandaid there if i was bleeding to death
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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As long as the U.S. is willing to pay for the education, healthcare, food, housing, etc. of the children of illegal immigrants, they will continue to flood here.
The key is to stop them from entering in the first place. Punishing the children of illegal immigrants by denying them an education, health care, etc. will make things worse for everybody.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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If you don't stop the people paying the illegals once they are here, I think it's hopeless. Have to hold employers feet to the fire and take away the incentive to come here. Apparently, the Dept of Homeland Security have plans to do just that:

Employers to be new targets of federal enforcement - Los Angeles Times

And... I'm also against the anchor baby philosophy and if you're arrested and found to be here illegally... good bye!

And this is coming from a liberal.....
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:33 PM
 
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Perhaps someone can answer this question for me:

How is it possible that an illegal immigrant pays social security tax?
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:38 PM
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Perhaps someone can answer this question for me:

How is it possible that an illegal immigrant pays social security tax?
"What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the "earnings suspense file" — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year."

Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
 
Location: mancos
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"What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the "earnings suspense file" — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year."

Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
good other than that i don't give a crap
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:47 PM
 
Location: southern california
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there is an element in this state that is not concerned about most working people.
they are very indulgent of their kids consume a great deal and are angry alot.
these are the people that go to church on sunday and subcontract with firms that hire illegals like crazy.
they are in short wealthy but at a great cost to the california worker
at some point john wayne became marie antoinette.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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"What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the "earnings suspense file" — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year."

Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
So the government is actually making money off them.
Puts them in a bit of a dilema don't you think ?
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