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Old 07-12-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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Since the outlawing of apartheid many white south Africans that had their social status protected by the government has had that privilege taken away.

In some cases they inhabit the same ghettos that black Africans have lived in all their lives.

The black middle class unhindered by apartheid is growing by leaps and bounds, although they still only make up 10% to 20% of the middle class.

Because of the access to main stream south African educational and financial, and political institutions some whites are claiming "reverse discrimination"

Your thoughts.



YouTube - Poor Whites - South Africa
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Old 07-12-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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For cripes sake, there is no such thing as reverse discrimination.
It's discrimination or not.
Can't you at least try to get the terms right?

Why not worry about problems in the US?
There are enough of them, or would you rather wax poetic on problems that you can have no effect on?
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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Poor whites?? LMAO...

Are'nt you a clever one!!

Did you post that so you can hype up the rhetoric?? Did you by any chance thought this was a white supremacy forum??

Before you carry on the "Cry wolf" garbage, did it ever come accross your mind, what whites have done for so long will have an ill affect on society in the long run? ohh sorry i forgot the saying, "why must you bite the hands that beat and oppress you", does that saying only work for the white masters and not for the Blacks?

Last i looked, Africa is a Black nation.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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For cripes sake, there is no such thing as reverse discrimination.
It's discrimination or not.
Can't you at least try to get the terms right?

Why not worry about problems in the US?
There are enough of them, or would you rather wax poetic on problems that you can have no effect on?
Amen! Although the OP did not express this, I know some folks will be have an attitude that they had it coming to them. You can never fight racism with racism.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:41 PM
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What are my thoughts? Karma's a b-t-h. I often have thought that the reason so many whites in this country have gone so nuts about Obama's election is that they were afraid that Karma was finally going to catch up with them too.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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What are my thoughts? Karma's a b-t-h. I often have thought that the reason so many whites in this country have gone so nuts about Obama's election is that they were afraid that Karma was finally going to catch up with them too.

This is the sad truth, but yeah i have to agree. Now its paranoia hysteria on their part.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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Amen! Although the OP did not express this, I know some folks will be have an attitude that they had it coming to them. You can never fight racism with racism.
From an "Idealistic" point of view, i gave up on that idea many moons ago. But some people will only understand what it really means when its done to them. Some of us dont want it to be like that, but there is a saying. "A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do".
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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From an "Idealistic" point of view, i gave up on that idea many moons ago. But some people will only understand what it really means when its done to them. Some of us dont want it to be like that, but there is a saying. "A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do".
First of all, I've have been the victim of racism so yes, I know what it feels like to be negatively judged by the color of my skin. Second of all, we will never move forward and eradicate racism as long as we try to use racism to fight racism. All it does is create a viscious cycle. I'm no expert on South Africa but here in the US, great injustice was done to the blacks here on our shores. Should we punish the white population for the sins of their ancesters? Are we now advocates for racism now that the shoe is on the other foot? If so, then what makes us better than the ignoramuses that perpetrated slavery and other injustices on a whole group of people whose skin tone was darker?
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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First of all, I've have been the victim of racism so yes, I know what it feels like to be negatively judged by the color of my skin. Second of all, we will never move forward and eradicate racism as long as we try to use racism to fight racism. All it does is create a viscious cycle. I'm no expert on South Africa but here in the US, great injustice was done to the blacks here on our shores. Should we punish the white population for the sins of their ancesters? Are we now advocates for racism now that the shoe is on the other foot? If so, then what makes us better than the ignoramuses that perpetrated slavery and other injustices on a whole group of people whose skin tone was darker?
Right ok. So, the white man had every right to have done what he did and that right remains exclusively his/her own?

We the minorities have no right to slap the hand that enslaved them for so long, cant even tell our former white masters that they are wrong, under our own terms. Because you "A white" person say??

Your right, you are no expert in African business. Stick to the American threads.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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GracieJJ;9726549]Poor whites?? LMAO...

Are'nt you a clever one!!

Did you post that so you can hype up the rhetoric?? Did you by any chance thought this was a white supremacy forum??

Before you carry on the "Cry wolf" garbage, did it ever come accross your mind, what whites have done for so long will have an ill affect on society in the long run? ohh sorry i forgot the saying, "why must you bite the hands that beat and oppress you", does that saying only work for the white masters and not for the Blacks?

Last i looked, Africa is a Black nation


Let me set you straight so that you can stop with your ignorance!!

I don't think that this is a white supremacist site, they would not be too welcoming towards me because I'm black

You can take your foot out of your mouth now or your head out of your azz, take your choice!!

The title of the thread is "Poor whites-South Africa" because that's what it's titled on "you tube"!

Many different people discuss issues of race on this board and most opinions are welcome as long as some shard of sanity is behind them.

I've noticed that you have come here mainly attacking whites or those you mistake as white or anyone whose opinion does not mirror your own.

That's not dialog that's extremism and it's really not needed here!!



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For cripes sake, there is no such thing as reverse discrimination.
It's discrimination or not.
Can't you at least try to get the terms right?


Why don't you slow down before you go on attack mode

I'm using "reverse discrimination" because certain people only relate to that term whether it's a factual term or not.


I don't simply discuss only U.S. problems. That seems very small minded of you.

I live on the planet Earth and take a interest in many things because they are happening on the same planet that I live on.

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