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I see no discrimination. Where do you? The person was allowed to be at the fair, just not to shove the camera/questions at people who didn't want to be a part of it. Do you really believe he was the only non-Arab at the fair? That will be a ridiculous assumption.
What is a ridiculous assumption is attempting to say that I thought the videographer was the only non Arab at the fair. Please - do show where I said that
As long as the person being insensitive is not being nosy, I don't see an issue either. That was not the case. He started with a confrontational attitude and when you do that, you reap what you sow.
Furthermore, after he was ejecting from the booth he was still being bullied about being there. Had Security or better yet the cops told him that the people supporting that particular booth didn't want him back in there but he was free to go about his business we wouldn't be having this discussion. Instead the Security for the event based on the complaint (perhaps justified perhaps not) of one booth made this guy leave then entire event. That is what I think is wrong - not people refusing to be taped.
What is a ridiculous assumption is attempting to say that I thought the videographer was the only non Arab at the fair. Please - do show where I said that
Ahem... Was there another point to this:
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Let me be clear -- if your fair is on public property then the organizers of said fair do not have the right to discriminate against fairgoers based on religion/ethnicity/sexual orientation/or race.
Now explain, what exactly was your point of bringing this up in the ongoing discussion.
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Furthermore, after he was ejecting from the booth he was still being bullied about being there. Had Security or better yet the cops told him that the people supporting that particular booth didn't want him back in there but he was free to go about his business we wouldn't be having this discussion. Instead the Security for the event based on the complaint (perhaps justified perhaps not) of one booth made this guy leave then entire event. That is what I think is wrong - not people refusing to be taped.
By then, he'd earned the right to be seen as a nuisance. If you've been told NO, get moving as opposed to being confrontational or else learn to bear the consequences.
Now, do you believe he was the only guy with a camera, recording stuff at the fair?
If a member of the public goes to a event open to the public and annoys someone manning a booth specifically set up to answer questions,they deserve to be assaulted If they do not leave when told to by another member of the public.
If a member of the public goes to a event open to the public and annoys someone manning a booth specifically set up to answer questions,they deserve to be assaulted If they do not leave when told to by another member of the public. Is that about it?
Yes. He wasn't being tossed out when he got in. His actions got him kicked. He had his rights, and so did they. Deal with it.
I didn't see much diversity and they weren't celebrating it. They were celebrating THEIR OWN heritage.
Do you think all European cultures are the same? All Asian cultures? All African cultures? Why would you assume that all Arabic cultures are the same? There is great diversity. And just to be clear; not all Arabic cultures are Muslim; just as not all Muslims are Arabic.
I didn't see much diversity and they weren't celebrating it. They were celebrating THEIR OWN heritage. There is nothing wrong with that either. There are festivals celebrating everyone's heritage in almost every place in this country. However, to say they were celebrating diversity isn't really accurate.
That being said, this was an Arab festival where I am sure there were Christian Arabs in attendance as well. The booth where the interviewer was targeting set themselves up with their "Got questions? We have answers" about Islam. They may have meant well and I actually respect the fact they did this. However, if they set up a booth at a public affair why would they be against being recorded? If they didn't want to be recorded, and that is their right, why the physical attacks?
I agree that the purpose of the video can be seen as an intent to provoke. However, they had no right in forcing the videographer to stop. It was a public place and there are no laws about videotaping. They could have easily gotten their message across if they weren't thuggish in their actions.
This is an Arab festival. Arab does not equal a singular culture. There are Arabs in Syria, Iran, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, etc. Each of these places have distinct cultures and histories. So yes, that is diversity.
The main issue I have with the film, besides the large amount of editing, is the fact that they clearly had an agenda going into this. I don't believe they were innocently trying to get answers. I believe they were trying to use this situation to promote their own agenda. It is one thing if you are genuinely interested in Islam, and have sincere questions, it is another thing if you have preconceived notions of Islam and those "questions" are used to promote negative stereotypes about the religion.
You people should go back and look at the video. The man at the booth did not have any problem with the questions or the camera. It was security that stopped the camera and they had nothing to do with booth. If this was like most events security was an outside contractor approved by the city.
Why are you people trying to pin this on the guy with the booth?
The main issue I have with the film, besides the large amount of editing, is the fact that they clearly had an agenda going into this. I don't believe they were innocently trying to get answers. I believe they were trying to use this situation to promote their own agenda. It is one thing if you are genuinely interested in Islam, and have sincere questions, it is another thing if you have preconceived notions of Islam and those "questions" are used to promote negative stereotypes about the religion.
Who cares what their agenda may or may not have been,when does having an agenda allow others to assault you?
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