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Old 07-17-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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newtoli, I haven't followed the whole birther argument thing. With all due respect, the picture you showed is obviously a newly printed version of Obama's BC. It has the word Laser at the bottom for example.

Is it supposed to be a modern copy of the original?

I'm just asking because of curiosity only.
Yes. If you go and request a copy of your BC, that's what you get. I no longer have a copy of my original BC either, I have a copy made at the town hall where I was born.

Here are two articles that include quotes and interviews with people from the HI Department of Health.

Obama Hawaiian-born: Citizen for sure: The Swamp
Born identity - Kokua Line - Starbulletin.com
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Trying to overturn an election on a technicality actually worked in 2000, the technicality a fraudulent vote counting process in Florida that was carefully punted to a partisan Supreme Court, due to vote fraud and voter disenfranchisement in FLORIDA, a state governed by the recipient of the fraudulent votes own brother, the disHonorable Jeb Bush, Governor (R-FL), presiding in 2000.

I guess the birther's are trying to overturn another this time by suspending their belief their argument is silly and a poor excuse for dereliction of duty, this Major should be ashamed
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't like the way this was done. Unfortunately, it undermines the whole purpose of the legal action and certainly diminishes the outcome.

Having said that, I don't understand why it doesn't seem to bother even the most liberal voter that there are none of Obama's records available to the public. There was a senate hearing to determine whether or not McCain was eligible, but Obama gets a free pass. If he were Republican you would be the people up in arms about eligibility and the left leaning press would be all over this issue. Double standards abound here and dangerous ones at that.

The way I read it, he is absolutely not a natural born citizen. The founders wanted to make sure that, going forward, there was, at birth, no allegiance to any other nation. Obama's father was from Kenya and therefore a British citizen. He conferred dual citizenship upon his son which equals dual allegiance - henceforth no "natural born" status. It matters not that the citizenship expired, it existed at birth.

Before he enacts further legislation that is constitutionally questionable (limited powers given to government) shouldn't we have the right to a fair hearing to determine his eligibility?

Those on the far left will lose just as many rights under Obama as those on the right - why continue to cover for him when it should be an easy matter to resolve. Is "the party" and the retention of power more important than the legal eligibility of a man who has already shown that he has no respect, and even less knowledge, of the Constitution. Obviously, and sadly, it is.

He has, to date, spent hundreds of thousand of dollars to hide anything that shows who he really is. He is quickly proving himself to be the most ignorant, self important, incompetent, dangerous and immoral man ever to hold the office. The grab for unprecedented power by this administration is disgraceful, especially because it is done without a care at all for the
American people.

Stimulus, Cap and Trade, Healthcare "Reform" - taking over of private business and banks -
okay by the Constitution? The founders would be turning over in their graves to see this
disgrace. At the very least we owe it to them to have him prove he is eligible to serve in the office that they held so dear and fought so hard for.
The way you read it would be wrong. You obviously haven't been following the "birth certificate" posts for the past year or so. There have been other presidents with foreign-born parents. In fact, until his ill-fated speech last fall, Bobby Jindal was considered a possible Repubican candidate for 2012, and his parents were both born in India and only emigrated to the US shortly before he was born.

As for his school records, there is no constitutional requirement that any presidential candidate release any school records, though I'd sure like to see Sarah Palin's.

Every time I see a thread like this I say I'm not going to respond, but this just drives me crazy. Obama has been scrutinized more than any other candidate.
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:39 PM
 
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that is one way of looking at it. here is another ---any soldier that unable to follow orders is unfit to serve. a danger to himself and others.
What do you think of John Kerry?
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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This case is bringing a great deal of publicity to the Obama Birth Certificate charges...

The major and his attorney succeeded in that...

Yeah, it called so much attention to the topic that Olberman named Taitz as the "Worst Person In The World"..........hahahahaha.

Did it ever occur to you that ALL publicity is NOT GOOD publicity?? As I said in a pervious post, not even RUSH CAN GET TRACTION ON THIS ONE. Taitz is totally worthless as an attorney. Truth be told, she is most likely the WORST ATTORNEY IN THE WORLD.

p.s.

There are no "CHARGES" ...........There are only "allegations"......

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Old 07-19-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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What do you think of John Kerry?
OMG! You're not going to resort to beating John Kerry again, are you? Don't you think the the Swiftboaters threw out enough lies? You need to go back to THAT crap?
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:59 PM
 
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If you are serious about being a Marine Captain as your moniker suggests and you support this loser then that puts you in the same category as him, a cowardly chickenhawk.
Well said, meson!
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Old 07-19-2009, 11:08 PM
 
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I haven't seen the Birth Certificate yet. Have you? I would gladly advance BO the money for a copy of it if he can prove anything with it. Yep, if money is what is holding him back I would sure pay for it. Somehow I don't that has anything to do with him not providing a real copy of his BC. Do you?
roy, you seem to be delusional, or you are pretending (very successfully) to be extremely dumb and uninformed about this scam by Taitz.
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Old 07-19-2009, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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What do you think of John Kerry?
John Kerry who served as ordered in Viet Nam even though he did not believe in that war? That John Kerry?

NO COMPARISON! The coward, traitor you are drooling over volunteered knowing he had no intention of going anywhere.
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