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Old 07-16-2009, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Apparently it would be sanctionable under international law and U.S. law if such activities were conducted by the military, it is just patently illegal if pursued by the CIA.

What are the rules for government-sponsored assassinations? - By Juliet Lapidos - Slate Magazine

So what do you suggest we do?
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:08 AM
 
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CIA officials were proposing to activate a plan to train anti-terrorist assassination teams overseas when
agency managers brought the secret program to the attention of CIA Director Leon Panetta last month,
according to two U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

washingtonpost.com
I wouldn't have a problem with it, just too bad we can't keep a secret around here.
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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If only those two sentences made any sense...

Every nation does indeed have a major intelligence apparatus.

No is isn't legal to assassinate the leaders of al Qaeda.

The fact that al Qaeda is not a country makes the assassination of their leadership by a foreign civilian agent or agency illegal.

Please read the provide link above.

"The fact that al Qaeda is not a country makes the assassination of their leadership by a foreign civilian agent or agency illegal."

Because?
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:10 AM
 
Location: The Milky Way Galaxy
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I believe we NEED this type of team. Its disturbing how many things are getting leaked out from the CIA these days.
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Pa
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That's why our allies withhold information from us. They know we'll blab it to the Washington Compost.
That is actually an accurate statement. In fact Israel has admitted that they are hesitant to share intel with us in fear of it leaking and getting their sorces killed.
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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And before this, there was the School of the Americas.

History of the School of the Americas (SOA)

United States Army School of the Americas: Background and Congressional Concerns

Human Rights Violations.
As reflected in the 1993 debate, most concerns about the School have centered on graduates who have been implicated in--or are alleged to be responsible for-human rights violations in their countries. According to critics, the School has a history and tradition of abusive graduates who violate human rights. Observers point out that School alumni include: 48 out of 69 Salvadoran military members cited in the U.N. Truth Commission's report on El Salvador for involvement in human rights violations (including 19 of 27 military members implicated in the 1989 murder of six Jesuit priests), 2 and more than 100 Colombian military officers alleged to be responsible for human rights violations by a 1992 report issued by several human rights organizations. 3 Press reports have also alleged that school graduates have included several Peruvian military officers linked to the July 1992 killings of nine students and a professor from La Cantuta University, and included several Honduran officers linked to a clandestine military force known as Battalion 316 responsible for disappearances in the early 1980s. 4 Critics of the School maintain that soldiers who are chosen to attend are not properly screened, with the result that some students and instructors have attended the School after being implicated in human rights violations.

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2 The U.N. Truth Commission Report on El Salvador and the U.S. Army School of the Americas. Washington Office on Latin America. August 27, 1993.

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Sisters protest at fort year after year | National Catholic Reporter | Find Articles at BNET

And from U2, "The Mothers of the Disappeared:"

Midnight, our sons and daughters
Were cut down and taken from us
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

In the wind we hear their laughter
In the rain we see their tears
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

Night hangs like a prisoner
Stretched over black and blue
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

In the trees our sons stand naked
Through the walls our daughters cry
See their tears in the rainfall
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The story of the Mothers of the Disappeared:

US Declassified Documents: Argentine Junta Security Forces Killed, Disappeared Activists, Mothers and Nuns
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Assination is, was, and always has been illegal because the victims are usually the “leaders” of the society and not some “unimportant” peasant. I do not think we need to indulge in hit squads either in the international realm of in our own back yard. After reading the posts on the Maryland SWAT teams’ heinous killing of innocent civilians, I now question the need for these any where in our nation. IMHO Drugs are far less a problem than government sanctioned armed thugs.
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:42 AM
 
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What happened to the idea of "Clandestine Operations". I wish the liberal Moderator cut: language! in control of our country would shut the hell up about the CIA and focus on restoring this nation rather than it's total destruction from within.

"The Liberal's Death Wish"
The American Spectator : Consequences of the Liberals' Death Wish

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Old 07-16-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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If only those two sentences made any sense...

Every nation does indeed have a major intelligence apparatus.

No is isn't legal to assassinate the leaders of al Qaeda.

The fact that al Qaeda is not a country makes the assassination of their leadership by a foreign civilian agent or agency illegal.

Please read the provide link above.
In actuality it's illegal to target heads of state for assassination. Now, if they happen to be killed in the course of an overall attack that's considered ok (targeting Sadaams's residences during 1991 and 2003 for example or Khadafi's residence during the 1980's over something I forget the name of). That prohibition came about after the Church hearings in the 1970s uncovered the attempts to assassinate Castro among others.
Bin Laden is not a head of state so he doesn't fall under these prohibitions.

Just out of curiosity what do you think Scout-Snipers and Recon Rangers do?
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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I would ahve no objection since they are terrorist .Now if it were another countries leader like JFK tried with Castro that's a different matter. But remmeber who teh target of the bombing in Libya was which kiled nly hois family by Clinton.
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