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Docs I know in UHC countries are telling me about how private insurance/private clinics/private hospitals are actually making headways in their countries bc people are tired of waiting and the care they are getting.
It's funny ... bentle claims to be all about conservative ideals ... isn't one of the conservative bedrocks, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY??? oy!!!
Lets also mention, in fairness, that Germany has compusary service to their country as well ... do they still? A good friend of mine registered as a contientious objector, so he worked in a hospital for his service to his country. Again, I'd think that these country firsters would be all over that as well ... yes? no????
Also, in fairness, Germany is a lot less populated than the US. I'm not sure how feasible it would be to completely adopt a German system for heathcare, but I'd sure be hip to adopting some parts of it. Spas ... goooooood!!!!
And Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical muslim etremist ... wow, extreme much????
And yes, pickpocketing is a risk and Chiel is right ... a little common sense goes a long long long way when travelling outside the US ... doi doi doi.
In Germany, military service is still compulsory, now it's 9 months where it used to be a year. If you have personal/religious beliefs that prohibit you from using a weapon, you can serve with a civil service type organization or the red cross, hospital, etc., for a period of about 1.5 times what a military stint would be.
A coworker broke his back and has been off for about 4 months. He's slowly coming back to work a few hours a day until he can work full time. His insurance pays his salary while he's off and while he's working his way back to full time.
Do some people abuse it, sure.
What system is not abused by some people?
It just shows their lack of integrity.
But that's in every country, company, etc.
The people with health care don't give a flying fig about anyone without adequate health cover.
It's a bit like the people who own a yacht and go from one place to the other, sunning themselves on deck, sipping their martinis looking down on the rest of the people rowing their hearts out in a dinghy, getting nowhere, and the yacht owners telling everyone how fortunate the dinghy owners are, to even have a boat.
America will NEVER catch up with other Industrialised Nations as far as health is concerned until it gets out from under the jackboot of the big Corporations and insurance companies that are so self interest that they are destroying America.
All i hear is "Nanny State" or "Socialism" or "Biggggg Govt." Hey you want to be "Suckered" in by the CEO's etc then be my guest, but don't start sobbing when the next economic meltdown happens and you lose everything because of Corporation Greed. "Big" Govt spending will pail into insignificance compared to the Company Corruption that is yet to come once America rejects a UHC and gives the "Fat Cats" permission to rape America.
america is the world leader in health care! american technology has come up with the newest drugs, the best diagnostic equipment, the best procedures, etc.
what we have is a plan whereby president obama called on health industry leaders to cut the rate of growth in national health care spending by 1.5 percentage points each year. Curbing medical spending will force cuts in hospital budgets, spread nurses even thinner, and reduce the number of diagnostic machines available, causing waits for treatment. Slowing the flow of dollars into healthcare will also depress the largest growth industry in the U.S. (17 percent of GDP) and cause layoffs. Healthcare currently employs 14 million people, more than ten times the U.S. workforce at General Motors and Chrysler.
why would our president want to slow down the largest growth engine that the united states has currently, especially in light of rising unemployment?
america is the world leader in health care! american technology has come up with the newest drugs, the best diagnostic equipment, the best procedures, etc.
what we have is a plan whereby president obama called on health industry leaders to cut the rate of growth in national health care spending by 1.5 percentage points each year. Curbing medical spending will force cuts in hospital budgets, spread nurses even thinner, and reduce the number of diagnostic machines available, causing waits for treatment. Slowing the flow of dollars into healthcare will also depress the largest growth industry in the U.S. (17 percent of GDP) and cause layoffs. Healthcare currently employs 14 million people, more than ten times the U.S. workforce at General Motors and Chrysler.
why would our president want to slow down the largest growth engine that the united states has currently, especially in light of rising unemployment?
Which is why I fully support medical administrative cost reform ... that's the 10,000 pound gorilla in the healthcare world ... but nobody will even touch it ... going after so called rich doctors and quality nurses is the easy thing to do. What needs to be reformed is the invisible layers between the doctors and the patients.
Which is why I fully support medical administrative cost reform ... that's the 10,000 pound gorilla in the healthcare world ... but nobody will even touch it ... going after so called rich doctors and quality nurses is the easy thing to do. What needs to be reformed is the invisible layers between the doctors and the patients.
This is hitting the nail on the head.
No one is saying we don't need some reform to make for better accessibility.
Going to an inefficient, ridiculous single-payor system (where the payor will suck up tax dollars and hand out cruddy care if the current govt health plans are any example - VA/medicaid/medicare - and people who are getting great health care now will either have to pay two premiums or get crappy care along with everyone) is not the answer.
Docs I know in UHC countries are telling me about how private insurance/private clinics/private hospitals are actually making headways in their countries bc people are tired of waiting and the care they are getting.
Docs I know in UHC countries are telling me about how private insurance/private clinics/private hospitals are actually making headways in their countries bc people are tired of waiting and the care they are getting.
Having used a UHC all my life. Having family in UHC countries outside of the UK. Having Studied medicine in the UK and have many Doctor Friends, i can tell you FIRST HAND and not from "Hearsay" from friends that the Private sector will always survive in any UHC Country. The only difference is that with a UHC the cost of private health care plummets so low that anyone who wants private health care can afford both a UHC and private for less than Americans are now paying for just Private. Maybe that is why more people are now getting private health in UHC, because they can easily afford both?
The Conservatives cannot have it both ways. In one breath a UHC will destroy the Private health sector and then in another breath how the private health sector is more popular in UHC countries.
Which one is it???????
Do those same docs tell you how they wish they could practice here? Cuz that's what they tell me. They want our resources, our technology, and what pays for that...? Not government-scale reimbursement.
Single payor will cost too much and not be worth it...the best thing that happened to medicare drug programs was turning to a private company for modeling.
I don't want to live in a system where there is rationing and delays that may decrease overall mortality (barely) with a concommitant surge in morbidity.
And why does it cost 900 bucks to be seen privately in Canada? That doesn't sound like a lower price.
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