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Why do you think unions support tax increases? Because it allows the governmet the money to turn around and reward the unions with giant highway and bridge projects that benefit those select few union workers, while increasing the cost of living for everyon else, including those down and outers that you guys supposedly care so much about!
Unions should not be influencing politics. I don't want unions influencing politics any more than I want corporations influencing politics. That's a seperate issue.
You keep throwing out these labels. Conservatives this, liberals that. They're meaningless. Your strategy of labeling people, like this, reminds me very much of Rush Limbaugh. I'm sure you came up with this tactic yourself, though.
Leaving Florida I am impressed with your doggedness but it would be helpful to you if you would go back and reread the entire thread, or at least the posts from today before you jump in in "attack mode" accusing me of labeling etc.
Because if you did in this intance you would see I in fact did not label anyone "liberal" but was simply responding to I believe Sila's and Sunny Helena's previous post.
Sunny stated, and I quote: Liberalism is not about big goverment. It is about helping people who can't help themselves.
But go ahead with your insults and sarcasm if it makes you feel good.
Unions should not be influencing politics. I don't want unions influencing politics any more than I want corporations influencing politics. That's a seperate issue.
Unions in Michigan OWN the state legislature and they control every Senator or Rep Michigan sends to the Senate and House. In fact, the unions are SO politicized that they are FORCING all workers in factors to be a member of the union or be fired, because they wnat union memberships to increase so the unions can flex their political muscle.
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If you truly believe this then you have bought the liberals agenda hook, line, and sinker. This is what they want people to believe.
Liberals do NOT give a crap about people. I work with THE most liberal people in Central Florida. I suggested everyone donate $3 for the "feed the homless" meal drive downtown Orlando not 1 (one) liberal co-worker or boss has offered $1 for it. To make matters worse, I am employed by the most liberal people in this country (lawyers) who walk around with 'Obama 08' buttons on their suits. These guys make a FORTUNE chasing ambulances. Not once do these people offer anyone a raise or treat anyone like they mean something. Or health insurance. Or more than 2 sick days per year. THOSE ARE TRUE LIBERALS! No wonder everyone in the support staff is a Republican now. They see how bad the liberals are!
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I have to completley agree with LF. Alot of jobs have been eliminated with the free trade/NAFTA. I think it was the worst thing that could of happened to this country. While we are providing jobs at a VERY low cost through supply and demand to foriegn countries we are eliminating American jobs. Should we let foriegn countries and major corporations benefit while the American people go on unemployement?? They should highly tax these companies because they are saving money in sweatshop working enviroments or they should eliminate this trade completley.
BUY AMERICAN MADE
Here in South Florida it is very hard to get a good paying job with benefits. Is it because of illeagals??? Not sure but I don think it has to do with the Carribean mentality. No respect for workers and if you do find a good salary with benefits your empployer thinks he owns you fifty hour weeks etc. And forget about comp time...its non existing.
I agree. The NAFTA agreement drafted by LIBERAL president BILL CLINTON has ruined many local economies, specially in smaller communities in the Midwest. Now Bush is pushing Nafta ahead and the American Corporations are pushing for illegal alien amnesties and "guest worker" programs so they can get all the cheap labor they want.
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Oh please, unions are not the cause of all this. It's our pathetic trade and immigration policies. Unions do drive up the cost of production, but that wouldn't be a big deal if we didn't make it so easy for them to just move their factory to a third world country and hire people for pennies on the dollar. The problem, now, is that so many segments of the economy are using cheap third world labor, a US based company that uses union labor cannot compete. So now companies have the option of hiring illegals or moving their factories. The flaw isn't unions. The flaw is the system.
I agree that Immigration policies and free trade are mostly to blame for our job issues. I think we need some tarrifs, GM/Chrysler/Ford need to move to "smart states" like TN and NC and ditch the liberal Michigan.
But by far, illegal immigration is depressing our job markets.
Oh please, unions are not the cause of all this. It's our pathetic trade and immigration policies. Unions do drive up the cost of production, but that wouldn't be a big deal if we didn't make it so easy for them to just move their factory to a third world country and hire people for pennies on the dollar. The problem, now, is that so many segments of the economy are using cheap third world labor, a US based company that uses union labor cannot compete. So now companies have the option of hiring illegals or moving their factories. The flaw isn't unions. The flaw is the system.
Unions should not be influencing politics. I don't want unions influencing politics any more than I want corporations influencing politics. That's a seperate issue.
Seperate issue! The teachers union is one of the most powerful lobbies in washington! That is the number 1 problem with our education in this country! Unions and politics are joined at the hip. Those on the left like to rail about big corporate ceo's, you might want to look at the crooked bastards running these unions they make corporate ceo's look like a boyscouts!
Seperate issue! The teachers union is one of the most powerful lobbies in washington! Unions and politics are joined at the hip. Those on the left like to rail about big corporate ceo's, you might want to look at the crooked bastards running these unions they make corporate ceo's look like a boyscouts!
Oh please. How many governments has the teacher's union seen overthrown? Look, I despise the influence unions have on politics, too. But let's not compare them to corporations. Look at what United Foods did in Guatemala in the 1950s, if you want an example.
No one outside the US despises our teacher's union. Many people despise our corporations, because they have caused real harm to people.
Oh please. How many governments has the teacher's union seen overthrown? Look, I despise the influence unions have on politics, too. But let's not compare them to corporations. Look at what United Foods did in Guatemala in the 1950s, if you want an example.
No one outside the US despises our teacher's union. Many people despise our corporations, because they have caused real harm to people.
Where did we start talking about other countrys, To be honest I really dont care what those in socialist countrys think of our corporations!
LOL. You think I'm talking about socialists? I'm talking about the pseudo-slaves.
Now we are way out in left feild! this is going nowhere. I am always amazed and find it typical liberal hypocrisy, how the left is always so concerned about the US's image around the world and act like they are so caring about the rest of the world, but by god dont let any american companys go there and actually help those people!
Now we are way out in left feild! this is going nowhere. I am always amazed and find it typical liberal hypocrisy, how the left is always so concerned about the US's image around the world and act like they are so caring about the rest of the world, but by god dont let any american companys go there and actually help those people!
They're not helping people! God, do you honestly believe they're helping these people? They're no different than the Europeans during their colonization period. And no, I don't hate Europeans or America or anything of the sort. I just wish people would admit to the facts, as they are. We are not benevolent. We only pretend to be.
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