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Old 11-01-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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Thanks to Obama delaying the mandate on employers for another year the full effects of Obamacare and people losing their insurance will not be known until Dec 2014. If you have a employer insurance don't get too comfy thinking Obamacare won't effect you. I wouldn't feel to secure with your job either.

with its employer mandate to provide health insurance, gives businesses an incentive to cut workers' hours. This year, report after report has rolled in about employers restricting work hours to fewer than 30 per week

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs - Investors.com
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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IBD missed pretty much every public library in NY and CT. When a full-timer retires, the library will advertise for two part-time librarians, with no benefits.

I read this article and just started getting really ticked off. Sometimes you have to wonder what the eff is going on. Are the Democrats really so beholden to their idealogy they don't see the damage the ACA is doing to the country? Don't they care? Is Obama really this inept? Why doesn't he get mad? Why isn't he out there giving speeches and raising hell? Instead he talks blandly about bad apples and insinuates this is the fault of the GOP and the insurance companies. No one in this administration wants to be embarrassed by the poor rollout of the website, but who gives a flip?

And now some genius at the Politico has decided the whole problem has been "calculated sabotage by Republicans at every step." The Obamacare sabotage campaign - Todd S. Purdum - POLITICO.com

So there we go. Democrats pass a bill few people want. Obama has to lie and lie and lie to get it passed. Then when they screw it up, break out some jackass at the Politico to blame the Republicans.

2014 is a knocking.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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IBD missed pretty much every public library in NY and CT. When a full-timer retires, the library will advertise for two part-time librarians, with no benefits.

I read this article and just started getting really ticked off. Sometimes you have to wonder what the eff is going on. Are the Democrats really so beholden to their idealogy they don't see the damage the ACA is doing to the country? Don't they care? Is Obama really this inept? Why doesn't he get mad? Why isn't he out there giving speeches and raising hell? Instead he talks blandly about bad apples and insinuates this is the fault of the GOP and the insurance companies. No one in this administration wants to be embarrassed by the poor rollout of the website, but who gives a flip?

And now some genius at the Politico has decided the whole problem has been "calculated sabotage by Republicans at every step." The Obamacare sabotage campaign - Todd S. Purdum - POLITICO.com

So there we go. Democrats pass a bill few people want. Obama has to lie and lie and lie to get it passed. Then when they screw it up, break out some jackass at the Politico to blame the Republicans.

2014 is a knocking.
Election day is still a year away.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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Thanks to Obama delaying the mandate on employers for another year the full effects of Obamacare and people losing their insurance will not be known until Dec 2014. If you have a employer insurance don't get too comfy thinking Obamacare won't effect you. I wouldn't feel to secure with your job either.

with its employer mandate to provide health insurance, gives businesses an incentive to cut workers' hours. This year, report after report has rolled in about employers restricting work hours to fewer than 30 per week

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs - Investors.com
How convenient. First they didn't want to delay, and blamed Republicans. Now they want to delay...and it's not going to happen until AFTER the 2014 elections. Brilliant. Must have been so closed door meetings:

Unnamed Briber: "You idiots! Don't you realize that if you had delayed it, all those people would not know what's in it, and we could still take over in 2014?! Think, you morons!"

Reid: "Huh...yah...but if we do that for you, then you need to do this for us...."

O: "What? Are we in a meeting? What are we doing? Are those cookies? I love cookies."

Reid: "Just do what we tell you, Barack."

O: "Ok...I'm going to eat a cookie now."

And then, once people start feeling the sting, well, there's good ol' Hillary to come swooping in, telling everyone that her plan is similar, (the same), and that she has listened, and she will introduce her plan, that will save all of us from our pain in the pocketbook. And the Kool-Aid drinking will start all over again because the sheeple will be so enamored with the first woman president who will give them the healthcare they want.

The only slight difference I would make in another prediction is that they would turn us all over to single payer....maybe Hillary will introduce that, instead.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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People losing their insurance and more losses to come. Employers mandate was delayed for a reason to get it past election. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they will wait until Dec 31, 2014. Employers will most likely put these changes out in the grapevine then make it known in October. That doesn't bode well for the elections.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Election day is still a year away.
Still time for another shutdown or two.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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People losing their insurance and more losses to come. Employers mandate was delayed for a reason to get it past election.
No, it was because all these whizbang coprorations were busy waiting around to see if the Supreme Court would toss PPACA, and then they were actually busy waiting around to see if Romney would win and they could get rid of PPACA that way. Oops and oops. Then they were left with not enough time to get ready and so had to whine and whine about how they needed more time. Pathetic.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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Nice try but if you would get your face out of Obamas ass and see the politics you would understand that Obama didn't want the second shoe to drop, not yet.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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To be honest,I think employers wanted to cut hours and benefits regardless of the ACA act. This just gives them the reason to actually do it.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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To be honest,I think employers wanted to cut hours and benefits regardless of the ACA act. This just gives them the reason to actually do it.
Employers don't need to justify cutting hours to you or anyone. Taxes increased, cost of insurance policies increased. If expenses increase but the economy is weak they must look elsewhere which usually means cutting jobs.
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