Obama has not ended the colonial wars, closed Gitmo or stopped the wiretapping - is he 'Bush Lite'? (ideology, Washington)
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Ron would have had us out of Afganistan, Iraq and a multitude of other bases around the world, and used the saved billions to re-start the economy.
Iraq, certainly, since we were asked to leave. However, leaving Afstan ATM would be a huge mistake. It would allow the Taliban to sweep back into the entire country, providing them with more manpower and resources to bother neighboring nuclear equiped Pakstan.
Not to mention that leaving Afstan like that would compeltely destroy our already bruised reputation.
No, I believe Mr. Paul would find other was and means, like legalizing pot and saving nearly 50 billion a year, and cuting some of the more asanine programs like faith-based initiatives, No Child Left Intact, and other wasteful, do-nothing spending.
Iraq, certainly, since we were asked to leave. However, leaving Afstan ATM would be a huge mistake. It would allow the Taliban to sweep back into the entire country, providing them with more manpower and resources to bother neighboring nuclear equiped Pakstan.
Not to mention that leaving Afstan like that would compeltely destroy our already bruised reputation.
No, I believe Mr. Paul would find other was and means, like legalizing pot and saving nearly 50 billion a year, and cuting some of the more asanine programs like faith-based initiatives, No Child Left Intact, and other wasteful, do-nothing spending.
Our 'reputation' is not enhanced every time one of our drones kills a party of civillians. The Taliban was our creation - we empowered them to fight the Russians with guns and Saudi Wahhabist teachings. The people actually preferred them to the roaming warlords. Best we leave it to the people themselves, unless we are there to try and control the oil pipelines like the Soviets were trying to do - in that case we should just let God damn us.
Our 'reputation' is not enhanced every time one of our drones kills a party of civillians. The Taliban was our creation - we empowered them to fight the Russians with guns and Saudi Wahhabist teachings. The people actually preferred them to the roaming warlords. Best we leave it to the people themselves, unless we are there to try and control the oil pipelines like the Soviets were trying to do - in that case we should just let God damn us.
Your statements are accurate and spot on, except the last part.
However, the Taliban would be a non-issue right now if Bush43 hadn't spun off and invaded Iraq, for whatever reason he and the gods only know.
But we simply must finish the job we started to do there, push the Taliban back into the mountains where they can only hurt their own, and allow the Afstan g'ment breathing room and time to consolidate, nation build, and show her citizens that the Afstan g'ment would be a much better alternative to Taliban theocracy.
Your statements are accurate and spot on, except the last part.
However, the Taliban would be a non-issue right now if Bush43 hadn't spun off and invaded Iraq, for whatever reason he and the gods only know.
But we simply must finish the job we started to do there, push the Taliban back into the mountains where they can only hurt their own, and allow the Afstan g'ment breathing room and time to consolidate, nation build, and show her citizens that the Afstan g'ment would be a much better alternative to Taliban theocracy.
Our fighting the Taliban makes as much sense as the Soviets fighting them - and they lost. If the Afghan people want them, let them have the Taliban. They are strict Fundamentalist Islamists, and the last thing I would personally want, but then again I haven't lived under a Northern Alliance warlord either. Sometimes you choose the lesser of 2 evils - if you have to cover yourself from head to toe, maybe it's better than being raped - who knows?
Our fighting the Taliban makes as much sense as the Soviets fighting them - and they lost. If the Afghan people want them, let them have the Taliban. They are strict Fundamentalist Islamists, and the last thing I would personally want, but then again I haven't lived under a Northern Alliance warlord either. Sometimes you choose the lesser of 2 evils - if you have to cover yourself from head to toe, maybe it's better than being raped - who knows?
There are a few differences your not considering.
1. The entire Muslim world condemened Russia for invading Afstan. The Taliban gained considerable power, training, and weapons as a result of US involvment.
2. There was zero outcry from the Muslim world when WE invaded Afstan. Not even the fundies of Saudi could stand them.
3. The Taliban aided and abetted the people guilty of this Nations worse attack on our soil in modern history.
4. Leaving now woudl create a power vacum that would very qwuickly be filled up with the Taliban, after which they would certainly want to "punish the Infidels who removed them from power" and would ocne again aid and abet AQ and other terrorist groups.
On alot of things yes, he is Bush lite so far: Afghanistan, TARP bailout, Iraq, drone strikes in Pakistan, secrecy, wire-taps, detaining people without charge, GMO's, Israel/Palestine, free trade, WTO, Cuban embargo, Bolivia, war on drugs/marijuana prohibition. However, there are a few areas where, although less radical than they should be, his policies are a much needed change from Bush: unions, health care, renewable energy, reducing carbon emissions, education, reproductive freedom, military coups/right wing dictatorships, meddling in Latin America, and to some extent Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Cuba and Venezuela.
If he fails to give us a clean break from the Bush Administration, progressives should share part of the blame. We aren't doing enough to hold his feet to the fire. It seems like all the pressure and criticism that Obama's getting is from the right, not the left. Us progressives should have alot more leverage if we use it because we voted for him and volunteered for his campaings, not the right-wingers. Presidents in general like to say that they are presidents for all Americans: bull****! Bush never gave a damn what the left thought of him and I'm tired of the spineless Democrats pandering to the right-wingers and the big business interests. Bush attacked the left for 8 years. Honestly, I would prefer a staunch left wing president, with an agressive attitude that wants to annihilate the neo-cons just like Bush did to us.
Is he just another democrat, which at are heart only the other side of the same coin to the republicans? Most definitely.
Neither the dems or repubs have any inclination of ever changing the status quo on 99% of all big issues. Anyone who thinks not should ask themselves why Bush could not ban abortions, or end illegal immigration, or find Osama, or why Obama has pretty much kept most of Bush's program running on a lesser level, or why Clinton could not change health care or why he supported republicans in ending welfare.
Dem/Repub are two names for the same company, which sheeps the closed minded right and unrealistic left into electing them over and over.
Obama is not going to, he is to busy ramming his terrible ideas through and does not have time to complete his promises.
He is continuing the wiretapping that many liberals used all the time, he is keeping Gitmo open instead of closing it, another liberal big issue and he is actually ramping up the wars even more.
Liberals cannot complain about these Bush issues as Obama is following right through like they are not important at all.
u are some comedian, last time i checked conservative media was complaining and crying that he is gonna release terrorist into american jails, hell i dont think terrorist would survive in american prisons the way things operate in there with gangs and all that mess.
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closing it is a good idea or release the prisoners who havent been charged, you can erradicate terrorism means different things to different people good and bad
1. The entire Muslim world condemened Russia for invading Afstan. The Taliban gained considerable power, training, and weapons as a result of US involvment.
2. There was zero outcry from the Muslim world when WE invaded Afstan. Not even the fundies of Saudi could stand them.
3. The Taliban aided and abetted the people guilty of this Nations worse attack on our soil in modern history.
4. Leaving now woudl create a power vacum that would very qwuickly be filled up with the Taliban, after which they would certainly want to "punish the Infidels who removed them from power" and would ocne again aid and abet AQ and other terrorist groups.
u forgot to mention why the saudis didnt get outrage"because they are allies of ours and work with us and israel its a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$ thing
He has not reversed the prior admin's neo-con agenda, not even the use of illegal wiretapping and spying. No, he doesn't subscribe to Kristol's philosophy(?), but he has left the trappings of the previous admin in place.
0bama has adopted Bush's neocon agenda, all he is doing different is adding few new government programs, and took over GM, Chrysler, and AIG and Citigroup. Bush created the prescription drug program, and created a $500B doallar deficit, and 0bama wants to one up him, by taking over private medical health insurance and creating a $2-4 trillion dollar deficit.
0bama loves the big corporate and Wall Street lobbyists, he has them all over the place in his administration.
The neocons should be happy as pigs in mud, their guy is still in charge.
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